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pegleg 04-21-2007 07:50 AM

Tell it like it is - Need your input!
 
Hi
I am sorry that I don't get here often. I do read more than I post, however. I read about some of you in the latest issue of Neurology Now (March-April, 2007 - page 42-43). Good article!


I frequently am asked to speak to different groups about what it’s like to live with Parkinson’s. This includes what it’s like for caregivers, also. Years ago, when I first started this type of advocacy, I collected thoughts from people with Parkinson’s and their families. I need to update my comments.

Could you send your comments here? Just put reply here. By posting your comments, you are giving me permission to use your comments for my presentations. Also, give me how you want to identify yourself in the presentation. For example, your initials or first name and what area you are from. For example, sign JBP in Wyoming, etc. Here is the requested format:


What it’s like to live with Parkinson’s: (Only 1-2 sentences)
Example: It’s like being in a runaway car; you know there’s a cliff up ahead, but you can’t stop it.

From: JPP in Wyoming



Please let me know this within the next week (no later than April 27)– I promise to report back how everything goes. THANKS SO MUCH! Hope to see some of you at the Unity Walk in New York City April 28!

Peggy :)

reverett123 04-21-2007 08:13 AM

1 or 2 sentences eh?
 
OK, I'll try:)

It's like drowning. You sink beneath the dark water with fear and despair. You bob up into the sunshine with exhilaration and hope. Over and over every day.

pegleg 04-21-2007 08:18 AM

Thanks for being first, everett. I believe yours was one of the names in the Neurology Now article.

I noticed your signature quite about Big Pharma. that is who my next presentation is for - I will be speaking to 180 pharmaceutical reps in training for sellign neurological products. I know it seems that everyone is out for the almighty dollar in the pharmaceutical business, but I find that often there are some who can either identify with the comments I make or who are compassionate. If we can weave just one thread of compassion whereever we go, then it is worth the effort.

Thanks again!
Peg

paula_w 04-21-2007 10:23 AM

Living wth PD
 
It's like premature aging, which, along with continuous pain, includes cognitive losses, emotional detachment, and lack of self control.

Paula

Stitcher 04-21-2007 10:23 AM

It's like being on vacation without an itinerary. Never knowing what the next day will bring.

With regard to meds:
It's like walking in a never ending hilly area, where there is no down, only plateaus and more difficult ups. The first 15 minutes are a bit rocky and you have to take care to pick up your feet and take care with your gait so you don't stumble. The next 30 mins are flat and smooth, after that the next 2 hours are a slow climb up hill and each step is a bit harder than the next. Then you get to the peak, where the plateau is and there is another hill ahead.

With regard to dyskinesia
:
Kyskinesia is like being a clown in a side show. One provides entertainment of everyone around. There is a positive side to dyskinesia. It can eliminate the need for a diet. We get to lose weight without one.

With regard to lack of smile
:
People want to know if you are okay or they want to know why you are angery. My mother use to say to me, "Smile, you look so angry."

With regard to standing up from a sitting position
:
Just more entertainment for the people around you. If there is nothing to grab hold of, you have to fold yourself into the "nose to tops", stand up and then unfold yourself. Oh yes, then you have to get your feet to move!

One more
:
PD allow me to test my ability to pick things up off the floor, since I spend so much time putting things there...aka dropping things due to clumsiness.

:hug: to you Peg

BEMM 04-21-2007 12:32 PM

Alas, PD is a real bummer.
 
Carolyn, your metaphors (I think they're metaphors) are just wonderful.

From BEM in PA:
Having PD is like falling down a mountain side. Once you've fallen, there is no turning round and climbing back up, the only way is down. At first you can grasp small trees and pause on rocky outcrops, but the mountain side gets steeper and steeper, the rocks get sharper and sharper, and even if you've survived, broken and maimed, almost to the end, the final drop off will kill you.

PD is like a bus that only picks up. Once you're on board you can never get off again.

PD is like old age. You no more say "Get well" to people with PD than you say "Get Young" to old people

pegleg 04-21-2007 02:36 PM

paul, Carolyn, and BEMM - thank you! these are wonderful!

More??

Peg

Ronhutton 04-21-2007 05:44 PM

PD
 
Hi Peg,
PD is a fresh challenge every day. You have to win every time by telling yourself you are improving. Where else can you have such an exciting daily challenge!!
Ron

pegleg 04-21-2007 07:48 PM

Article on Virtual Support Groups
 
Luv your attitude, Ron! Have you been to Haiti yet?

I think you'll enjoy the article mentioned earlier is below:
(I gave the wrong page numbers. It's Neurology Now, March/April 2007 pp 40-41)

[I]Virtual Support
The benefits of joining an online neurology community.

BY Orly Avitzur, M.D.

Karen Cormac-Jones took her 9-year-old son, Ted, to 22 doctors over two years, but no one could find the cause of his nausea, vomiting, and weight loss. Bobbi Jerome had been going to the same rheumatologist for
10 years, but still had no definitive diagnosis. She didn’t respond to anti-inflammatory medications, so her doctors decided that the problem was psychological and referred her for psychiatric evaluation.

What these two women have in common is that they ended up receiving help from people they had never met—members of online communities who had become experts in their neurological conditions.

Cormac-Jones found the Celiac/Gluten Sensitivity forum on BrainTalk (brain.hastypastry.net/forums) one day while doing an Internet search for her son’s symptoms.
“This forum saved my son’s life,” she says. “Had I not stumbled across this community, I would never have learned about the tests that led to Ted’s cure.”

In Jerome’s case, a BrainTalk member- physician detected tell-tale signs of ankylosing spondylitis, a form of arthritis affecting the spine and joints. He urged her to get screened for it with the HLA-B27 blood test.
“My doctors reacted with stunned disbelief when it came back positive,” says Jerome. “It was as if a dark cloud suddenly lifted—the symptoms were no longer disjointed but had a cohesiveness that finally made sense.”

BrainTalk is one of many online communities where neurology patients and their caregivers share stories. “Many of the people on boards such as BrainTalk come by their hard-won knowledge of complicated conditions through extensive research,” says Glenn Ribotsky, who participates in several neuropathy discussion boards.

Jerome feels that the freedom that distinguishes online forums from in-person support groups also makes them attractive. “We can come and go as we please, and we aren’t expected to meet criteria for participation,” she says. “BrainTalk is available 24/7—how many off-line support groups can say the same?

“The newly diagnosed are typically scared,” says Rick Everett, who developed Parkinson’s disease at a young age. And, several forum members told Neurology Now, physicians either don’t have time for all their questions or simply lack the answers for many of the mundane issues that come up. Patients, in turn, are often left to fend for themselves.

Jan Richardson discovered that members of the multiple sclerosis (MS) forum on BrainTalk often know how to cope with medication side effects and symptoms like fatigue, spasticity, and bladder problems. Diane Zabel joined BrainTalk shortly after undergoing deep-brain stimulation surgeries for essential tremor. “There are day-to-day frustrations that come with this disease...being unable to feed ourselves or drink from a cup or full glass,” she explains. “The forum is the place for answers.”

Pamela LaBlake, who sought out BrainTalk when her son Matthew was diagnosed with Tourette’s syndrome, says that she can ask any question, no matter how “insignificant,” without feeling intimidated. “The answers come from the heart because other parents have gone through the same things… increased tics, difficult school issues, problems with medications.”
realize that you’re not alone."

“It had been an excruciating and lonely experience,” NeuroTalk (neurotalk.org) member Kim Helton told Neurology Now. Helton, who has trigeminal neuralgia, says she “was desperate to speak with one person like me…the thought of talking to many was almost beyond my comprehension.”

For people whose isolation is compounded by geographic seclusion, discussion boards are a godsend. Richardson lives in a small Canadian town in Ontario. It takes five hours to drive to the nearest MRI center or the closest neurologist. “The forums make the world feel smaller and a bit safer,” she says.

“On the forums, I can find people who walk in my shoes,” says Carolyn Stephenson, who has Parkinson’s disease. “Doctors have clinical knowledge, but can’t make the connection with a patient that another patient can.” A member of the NeuroTalk forum, Stephenson is also the Web master of the Northeast Tennessee Parkinson’s Support Group (tennesseepd.net).

Members are often up-to-date on the latest studies, and frequently post links to journal articles and breaking news. "It's wonderful to be able to access the latest research and anecdotes at one site,” says
Ted’s mother, Cormac-Jones.

Richardson notes that the MS forum is chock full of informative links—to clinical trials, scientific abstracts, other MS web sites, journals, and press releases about research advances. “Theories are discussed, snake oil cures are debunked, and support is given to all,” she says, emphasizing that no question is “stupid.”

The overwhelming majority of moderators are not physicians, but because members are hungry for credible research and advice, but because members are hungry for credible research and advice, online communities are surprisingly effective at catching faulty information. “BrainTalk is not a replacement for my physician, neurologist, or pharmacist. It’s just another approach to continuing education for an illness that’s often unpredictable,” Richardson says.

The forums also change the way members communicate with their doctors. “I no longer go in accepting what is said to me. I have the courage to ask questions,” says Braintalk member Cormac-Jones. She says she also feels
more comfortable discussing different approaches or treatments.

“I learned that you have to be in charge of your health,” says Suzanne Thompson, who lost her father and her sister to aneurysms. “Finding these communities helped me to find myself, and later inspired me to become proactive about awareness and education.”

Members of the Hydrocephalus Forum urged Kathi DeGrand to talk to her neurosurgeon about seriously considering a shunt revision. Without their support, DeGrand believes that she would have been unable to advocate for the surgery that put an end to her headaches. support each other through thick and thin.

“When you can reach out and help someone who is going through what you have, it comes full circle,” says Thompson. “You start out looking for support, and eventually you are the one helping others.”

Paula Wittekind, a member of the NeuroTalk Parkinson’s disease forum, says her experience dates back to the days of the forum’s inception. While there, she was inspired by a wellknown Parkinson’s activist. She went on to create a site called grassrootsconnection.com and became a charter member of the pdpipeline.org, advocating to improve clinical trials. Wittekind says that the forums also serve as a means for sharing good times and bad times.
“We discuss how our diagnoses affect our family life and social life, how hard
it is to have to leave the workplace, and how our illness affects our relationships with our spouses and children,” she says, reflecting, “We know that we are always there for each other.” NN

vlhperry 04-21-2007 08:51 PM

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