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Marty SLC 06-20-2012 02:06 PM

Suppliments to take?
 
Sorry this has probably been asked a 100 times but..... if you have to pick 4 supplements to take for PN what would they be?


1. B12, sublingual
2. Magnesium/Calcium

3. ?
4. ?


Thanks for the suggestions.

Marty SLC 06-20-2012 02:47 PM

1. B12, sublingual
2. Magnesium/Calcium
3. Thiamine/Benfotiamine

4. ? < -- I thinking on my number 4 suggestion.


I know the list can be much longer but I'm helping someone and they are not going to go out and by 10 different ones.

:winky:

mrsD 06-20-2012 02:51 PM

Are you following the gluten free diet?

If not, you may have substantial malabsorption issues.

B12 only works for those who are low in B12.

Each supplement is going to work best only for certain individual weaknesses a person has.

Magnesium is always good, since so many in US are deficient.
It will help with about 300 metabolic problems, not just PN.

So a question like this is not going to work for everyone.

Have your been tested for B12 and Vit D? do you know your numerical results?

Marty SLC 06-20-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 890302)
Are you following the gluten free diet?

If not, you may have substantial malabsorption issues.

B12 only works for those who are low in B12.

Each supplement is going to work best only for certain individual weaknesses a person has.

Magnesium is always good, since so many in US are deficient.
It will help with about 300 metabolic problems, not just PN.

So a question like this is not going to work for everyone.

Have your been tested for B12 and Vit D? do you know your numerical results?

It's not for me but someone I know. They have not been tested for vit D. They have for B12. B12 is borderline to being under. Is the vit D a special test? They don't smoke, do drugs, drink, consume any soft drinks or coffee.

Is this the right place to post this thread???

Sallysblooms 06-20-2012 04:07 PM

B12, fish oil, Vit D, l Carnitine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Biotin, there are many. I have perfect glucose levels but I am on a diabetic and high nutrient diet and that has all been wonderful. I am healing and doing great.

"Minding my Mitochondria" is a great book for information about nerve and mitochondria and food. Very important to stop sugary high carb foods and get a lot of nutritious food.

mrsD 06-20-2012 04:39 PM

Basically this question is being brought forth like a drug question.
Thinking like a "drug" solution is not going to work for a supplement suggestion.

But in essence we know nothing about who needs the information?

If this person has autoimmune disease, or low thyroid, or
a hereditary problem, the supplement question is moot.

Dr. Smith 06-20-2012 05:25 PM

Further complicating factors is the inferred "shotgun method". Just taking 4 supplements at random out of a list of potentials won't determine which are doing something/working and which are just emptying your friend's pocket faster.

Like medications, some/many supplements are better tried/added one at a time to metaphorically separate the wheat from the chaff (gluten notwithstanding :rolleyes:).

Doc

glenntaj 06-21-2012 06:33 AM

Agreed.
 
I tend to think that anyone with neurological issues should take Methylcobalamin B12, as this cannot hurt--it has no known toxicity level--and is helpfully neuroprotective.

Magnesium tends to be my second choice overall--as Mrs. D points out, deficiency in this mineral is common, and again, there aren't too many side effects (except for loosening of the stools, which many need anyway).

After that, though, it's a much more individual question. In general, people with blood glucose regulation problems might benefit from lipoic acid and/or inositol and/or biotin; people with mitochondrial problems might want to try carnitine and/or CQ10. But one size doesn't fit all.

The sad part about this is that there are really very, very few people with the biochemical or nutritional background to make good professional recommendations. Certainly few practicing physicians are expert in these areas, and even many nutritionists are not familiar with the area. So, for a lot of us, it's a long period of trial and error.

Marty SLC 06-21-2012 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenntaj (Post 890510)
I tend to think that anyone with neurological issues should take Methylcobalamin B12, as this cannot hurt--it has no known toxicity level--and is helpfully neuroprotective.

Magnesium tends to be my second choice overall--as Mrs. D points out, deficiency in this mineral is common, and again, there aren't too many side effects (except for loosening of the stools, which many need anyway).

I always cut corners while posting (sorry) and end up leaving out important information. In my mind I assumed everyone else was thinking the same "a few supplements can't hurt and could help and while they are in the process of testing for different things and have the resources go ahead and start on a few supplements to see if they start feeling better". That said it looks like 4 supplements is to many at this point.

Thanks for all your help!!!

Marty SLC 06-21-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sallysblooms (Post 890326)
B12, fish oil, Vit D, l Carnitine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Biotin, there are many. I have perfect glucose levels but I am on a diabetic and high nutrient diet and that has all been wonderful. I am healing and doing great.

"Minding my Mitochondria" is a great book for information about nerve and mitochondria and food. Very important to stop sugary high carb foods and get a lot of nutritious food.


Kinda what I've been telling them. Give the body every fighting chance.

Thanks for the tip on the book :)


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