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debbiehub 03-12-2011 10:24 AM

anyone have this when they are sleeping?
 
Lately, when I am sleeping I get this horrendous pain in both feet. I cant even describe it. If I move them it hurts soooo much. The closest thing I can compare it too is as if they were asleep but it is so much worse. Any advice?

Debbie

AintSoBad 03-12-2011 10:38 AM

Hello Debbie!
Sorry that you're getting this. It sounds to me like neuropathy. Talk to your neuro, or dr.
My feet hurt so badly in the morning, all I do is say ouch ouch ouch when I first try to walk.
I had to get New Balance sneakers (always had them since rsd), but in a wider size.
I get discoloration in my feet, and sometimes they swell so badly, I can't wear any shoes.
(I missed a Very important funeral due to that) How do you explain?

Sometimes I soak my feet in the tub, with some epsom salts, and after, or after I bathe,
I spray them with anti perspirant, and rub them with Eucerin calming itch relief. (it's got oatmeal and menthol in it). very nice. (We can be our own compounding pharmacist!)
Then, on go the socks, make sure they're not too tight.

Other than that, you can try to cut a lidoderm patch, and apply it where you can / where it hurts the most.

Unfortunately, this is a peripheral thing, and it's hitting my hands too.

I wish you the very best as always, Debbie!

Pete
asb

debbiehub 03-12-2011 01:11 PM

TY
 
Thanks for your advice..I did sleep with lidocaine patches on my feet last night because they were burning up- I still got that awful pain when sleeping. I can't even describe it but it makes me cry....Why dp we have this..


Debbie

mrsD 03-12-2011 01:20 PM

I would like to make a suggestion about applying the Lidoderms to feet.

I don't think they work well on the bottoms of the feet.
The nerves come down the tops of your feet--- so try 1/2 patch on the instep of each foot, leaning to the arch area.

This works better for neuropathy intervention.

This is a really good site to visualize the foot. Nerves are shown in yellow.

http://www.northcoastfootcare.com/pa...e-Anatomy.html

Look around that site...it is really helpful.

They even show an alternate way to lace shoes to take pressure off the instep:
http://www.northcoastfootcare.com/pa...e-Anatomy.html
This trick really helped me!

debbiehub 03-12-2011 04:32 PM

ty
 
Ok- I feel like an idiot but where is the instep?

AintSoBad 03-13-2011 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debbiehub (Post 752465)
Ok- I feel like an idiot but where is the instep?


Instep, is the high point over the top of your foot.
Mine is very high. Which give me also an also high arch.
Opposite of flat footed.

I agree w/ Mrs D. and I'm sorry I didn't' mention that.
Do you get more pain in your toes, than anywhere else?

Pete

gramE 03-13-2011 07:38 AM

Yep! Since my last block, it is mostly from the ball of my foot up to my toes. Severity depends on how 'active' I was the day before or the weather. I wore shoes and slippers yesterday to go eagle watching, and my entertainment for seven hours was playing scrabble, angry birds, and sequence with 2 of my grand sons. So I expected more fireworks this morning. Doc doubled my sleeping meds this week so not much bumping to wake me up, but it did. If I would try to lean over on my side and lay one ankle on top of the other, or just bump my foot against my leg it woke me. I have a Chi machine and I love it because

I am not to be doing any or at least limited walking for now, but it does seem to calm my feet and my whole self because it moves my whole
body faster that I can on my own an it really feels like exercise when I
am pretty immobile all day.
Like ain't so bad, I soak in Epsom , them massage each foot with tons
of lubriderm, even between my toes which is like some secret Chinese
torture. Mornings are hardest for me, ost of the time, but I don't
torture myself like most of you, I just don't wear shoes or socks ever.
Well, ok, I wear a special pair open in the back and a thin piece of
leather on top. Naturalizers I think. For socks at home I wear size 10-13 men's heavy cushioned work socks with the tops cut down to just at my ankle so I can keep them on. I can only take them for a couple of hours at a time so i'm happy warmer weather is on the way. Last week, I had to wear socks and boots because of an appt and snow. I read my husband a magazine out loud nearly the entire way as a distraction too keep myself from panicking.

I did suggest to my husband that we take the paper punch and make little lidoderm circles for the bottom of each of my toes! And the color is not always an indicator of the amt of the fireworks going off!

Walking softly for a while,
pat e

birchlake 03-13-2011 07:57 AM

Footwear is a "trial and error" exercise for most with CRPS affecting that area. And I've tried plenty!

As I really need the support of an athletic shoe because of other foot problems, but want minimum pressure on the foot from the shoe, I have had the best luck with New Balance running shoes; specifically the 883 model, which is designed with a roomy toe box and forefoot area.

The running shoes have a mesh over a good part of the top of the foot, rather than leather which is not as forgiving.

I also went from a regular shoe width to a 2E in width. The extra width giving additional room to the foot.

This shoe has really helped me a lot in pain reduction and in attempting to keep a good mechanical "gait" while walking.

Good luck.......

gramE 03-13-2011 09:06 AM

Yes before the accident I wore size 5 1/2. Now the smallest I have are size 7 with the leather and they are stretched out. My boots are size 8 1/2. Something just happens in my whole body when I get shoes and socks on. I try different things, haven't found the right combo yet. Skin is my preferred footwear. oh, and a size 7-8 mens slipper with lambs-like wool on the inside.

debbiehub 03-13-2011 09:31 AM

TY
 
Thanks for all of your advice.. Grarme- what kind of sleeping meds do you take?


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