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amandajayne 01-13-2014 12:05 PM

statins
 
Hi.ive been taking lipitor because i have high triglycerides but ive just read that statins van cause periphal neuropathy so can high triglycerides if i get triglycerides down wud neuropathy get better and if neuropathy from statins wud that improve. Im also scared ive got autonomic neuropathy im diabetic as well and scared

mrsD 01-13-2014 12:48 PM

Triglycerides really respond to fish oil. Lipitor only affects them mildly to moderately.

3 fish oil a day can reduce them by 1/2 or more.

Sallysblooms 01-13-2014 02:55 PM

Triglycerides are called the tattle-tale cholesterol. When I stopped most sugars and carbs, mine went down to a good number. Fatty foods, exercise also play a big part and you just have to pay attention to all of it. I have always taken great supplements like a good fish oil also.

Susanne C. 01-13-2014 10:09 PM

I have never heard that high triglycerides could cause neuropathy, although I have read medical journal articles which indicate they can accompany some hereditary neuropathies. There is also a hereditary type of high triglyceride. As I have no other markers for heart disease and cannot take Tricor or statins I largely ignore my numbers beyond trying to watch what I eat and exercise as possible.

My triglycerides were well over 500, and fish oil has reduced them by nearly half.

Balanchine 01-16-2014 03:42 PM

Slightly off the specific topic here
 
But rather than start yet another thread I figured I'd throw this query in since it's about statins.

Finally convinced my doc to let me try life off Lipitor to see if my PN would improve as a result. I've been on the stuff fairly continuously for more than 15 years and have had PN symptoms for maybe 2.

My question: if I'm going to notice any improvement, what do folks think is a reasonable ballpark for when I might expect to see it?

My thanks to all.

mrsD 01-16-2014 04:00 PM

15 years is a long time for damage to occur.

It will be a long time therefore, to see improvements.

Here is a video...explaining one of the damages that statins cause.
There are others. One other is that statins block remyelination repair that nerves undergo daily. This one may stop more quickly than the damage explained in the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_3miYtuDM

You may have to watch the video more than once.
Best to do that with a rest in between.

There are also photos of statin damage: These are very new:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0510150143.htm

ger715 01-16-2014 06:07 PM

Mrs. D,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1043989)
15 years is a long time for damage to occur.

It will be a long time therefore, to see improvements.

Here is a video...explaining one of the damages that statins cause.
There are others. One other is that statins block remyelination repair that nerves undergo daily. This one may stop more quickly than the damage explained in the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_3miYtuDM

You may have to watch the video more than once.
Best to do that with a rest in between.

There are also photos of statin damage: These are very new:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0510150143.htm



I have been cutting my 40mg's of Simvastatin in half for the past couple of years because of all the indicators pointing to PN. My last visit with my Internist informed him I was taking only half dose. He now has prescribed 20mg's instead of the 40 mg's. I am on a pretty high dose of narcotic meds because of 24/7 spine/PN pain.

Just wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea just to stop taking them at all. I have blood work done every 5 months or so because of my being Hyperthroid.

My doctor includes the Cholesterol (with fasting) among the bloodwork tests. Below are my last readings dated 10/19/2013.
Cholesterol Total of 176, Triglycerides ...102, HDL...71, VLDL Cholesterl Cal 20, LDL Cholesterol Calc...85, LDL/HDL Ratio ..1.2

Would appreciate your thoughts.


Gerry

mrsD 01-16-2014 06:33 PM

The numbers are not being used anymore. That tells me they didn't mean much in the first place.:rolleyes: The fact is they were rather fabricated by Big Pharma and sold to doctors as miracle drugs (which they are most definitely not).

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ghlight=statin
The new criteria are on this link, including the "revised" criteria.

I only provide the information here that your doctor either ignores or doesn't know about. It is your decision ultimately as to whether to take them or not.

Zocor is under scrutiny now because it is lipophilic (meaning enters fatty areas like the brain and nerves ) to only use low doses or none at all.

Balanchine 01-16-2014 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1043989)
15 years is a long time for damage to occur.

It will be a long time therefore, to see improvements.

Here is a video...explaining one of the damages that statins cause.
There are others. One other is that statins block remyelination repair that nerves undergo daily. This one may stop more quickly than the damage explained in the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_3miYtuDM

You may have to watch the video more than once.
Best to do that with a rest in between.

There are also photos of statin damage: These are very new:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0510150143.htm

Mrs. D - thank you so much for this. I'll look forward (so to speak) to those vids!

ger715 01-16-2014 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1044004)
The numbers are not being used anymore. That tells me they didn't mean much in the first place.:rolleyes: The fact is they were rather fabricated by Big Pharma and sold to doctors as miracle drugs (which they are most definitely not).

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ghlight=statin
The new criteria are on this link, including the "revised" criteria.

I only provide the information here that your doctor either ignores or doesn't know about. It is your decision ultimately as to whether to take them or not.

Zocor is under scrutiny now because it is lipophilic (meaning enters fatty areas like the brain and nerves ) to only use low doses or none at all.



Mrs. D,

I am totally confused. I just responded a post to you regarding the thread where you mention " the Lisinopril debacle" . Of course, I am on Lisinopril too.!!!!

Not sure what to say to my doctor regarding the numbers on the chloresterol readings since, if I understand you correctly, they seem to be just about worthless.

I have an appointment him in February. I get my bloodwork done the previous week so he has all the readings.

Thanks for all you input.


Gerry


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