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HeadStrong 04-11-2012 05:47 PM

Really???
 
I was doing some research and found this paper.....I can't locate the date on it (maybe I overlooked it) but I felt like I was reading something out of the dark ages. It was written by a Clinical Professor of Neurology in Texas.

Do people still believe this? Or am I just reading it wrong?


http://www.rwevansmd.com/EvansPublic...l%20review.pdf

Mark in Idaho 04-11-2012 06:35 PM

What a hatchet job for an article?

This guy wrote this article after July 11th of 2009.

If you check his web site, you will notice he is a "head ache specialist"

http://www.rwevansmd.com/Publication.html

But then. many of us have been fighting with Neuros and other doctors with these same ideas etched into their brains.

At least we know to not refer Houston PCS subjects to this doc.

I bet he gets lots of work from Work Comp insurance companies.

GlassHead 04-11-2012 10:27 PM

If you go into the PCS literature you will soon find that almost anything you can think of will be a disposing factor in developing PCS. Let me give you an example:

Disposing factors:

-Being female

-Being younger than 15 or older than 40

-Prior concussion injury

-Having prior or current alcohol/substance abuse

-Having low socio economic status

-Being of lower than average intelligence

-Ongoing litigation

-Having received the concussion in traumatic circumstances (car accident/assault)

-Prior history of depression or other psychiatric illness

-Having social problems in family, school, work.

Most people fulfill one or more of these points and they are now in the "danger zone" and they can be labeled "psychogenic" or whatever.


Another thing that bothered me about the article was facts that I could not make fit with the literature that I have read on the subject. In his citing 29 for example it says:

"In some studies of patients with PCS, premorbid depression is quite prevalent, as high as 46 percent. [29]"

Well, I looked at the study and it had only 15 patients, hardly statistically significant or representative.

It gets worse...The study was not even done on patients suffering from PCS, it was done on patients having a major depressive episode after having received a concussion and the inclusion criteria was not to have PCS but a major depressive episode.

And now the author claims that premorbid depression in PCS patients are as high as 46%! This guy is actually raping science...

Oh and btw, this was the first and only reference i checked out...This guy is exactly the reason why we have to struggle so hard to get the medical community to take us seriously.


-GlassHead

Mark in Idaho 04-11-2012 10:53 PM

As I said, he must get a lot of work from the WC and personal injury liability insurance companies.

His writing does not meet the Daubert Standard of evidence which is the court standard in Texas. The Daubert Standard is used to prevent 'junk' science from being used in court.

I wonder if this article was published in a peer reviewed journal.

In his CV, I see he was a WC examiner back in 1998-2003.

He appears to be a jack of all trades. They are usually a master of no trades but he does seem to have extensive work with head aches. I do not see any works of a serious nature regarding concussion.

He appears to have double jointed shoulders from patting himself on the back.

Soccergal 04-11-2012 11:25 PM

"double-jointed shoulders". :D. Love it. Ha ha. I needed that laugh.

Thanks Mark!

XSoccergal

HeadStrong 04-12-2012 08:07 AM

Thanks everyone....I knew I had a brain injury, but I didn't think I was that stupid! Thank god it was the article and not me this time lol

HeadStrong 04-12-2012 07:44 PM

OMG here's another one...
 
Ok, this is the last one I post, but I can't believe there are so many out there that believe this.

http://www.psychlaw.com/LibraryFiles/HeadInjury.html

Mark in Idaho 04-12-2012 08:52 PM

This last article is written by an attorney/MD who appears to be a 'hired gun.'

These hire guns can make outrageous fees as expert witnesses.

New Hampshire is a wobbler state regarding Daubert vs Frye standards of evidence. Daubert is becoming more the standard but the courts allow arguing the Frye standard which has a lesser standard of validation.

Frye provides more opportunities for attorneys and expert witnesses to make their fees due to the ability to extend the arguing in litigation.

This article's author appears to be ignorant of the sub-concussive impact effect on the brain. This is odd considering that Dr Robert Cantu, one of the first to warn of sub-concussive impacts practices neurosurgery in Concord Mass and at Mass General Hospital.

HeadStrong, You finds are just the tip of the iceberg, I have seen scores of similar reports and court documents arguing the same BS back when I was working on my WC claim.

GlassHead 04-12-2012 09:52 PM

Sounds like another person with a preconceived opinion on how things should be but not how they actually are.

I especially like this part:

"Similarly, it is a curious observation that some of the more dramatic mental and behavioral symptoms reported as part of mild TBI in adults are not seen in children."


Well, a brand new study published in "Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine" begs to differ on that statement:

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-0...in-injury.html


Children are much more likely to suffer from post concussive symptoms and related functional consequences.

I also don't like that i canīt find the articles he cites. Makes me feel like he has something to hide.

There are more factual errors in the article but i donīt want to go into details.

-Glasshead

EsthersDoll 04-13-2012 12:37 PM

I guess I feel like my energy is so limited that my time is too. After reading your few comments about this article I decided not to read it at all - I recommend some of you do the same. It's just not worth my limited time and limited energy to read something that won't help me to get better.


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