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mrbreezeet1 11-20-2014 12:27 PM

Trial work program
 
What do l have to do to start the trial work program?
Just call SS and tell them?
Is it true I can collect my full amount working and still receive my SSDI?
Anyone that has actually done this please post experience?

LIT LOVE 11-20-2014 01:12 PM

You need to notify SS when you begin working. Your employer might require you to go through an independent functional assessment--so make sure you're cleared to start.

The Trial Work Period is not a program. The Ticket to Work Program is a program. http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/top...ile-disability

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/leg...disability.htm
"You may work for a total of nine months out of a consecutive 60-month period of time and those nine months will count as the trial work period. (If you work nine total months out of five years, even if those nine months aren't all together, you'll have used up your trial period. If you don't get nine months of work in one year, the five year period keeps rolling on until you get nine months of work in within five years.)"

I do not have any personal experience working while collecting SSDI. Those that have posted on the forum that have made the attempt are often having a problem keeping their benefits--but those that aren't having problems are MUCH less likely to post. Hopefully you'll get some responses here, but you might want to try posting at the ssdfacts.com forums as well.

mrbreezeet1 11-20-2014 01:46 PM

Who does the Your employer might require you to go through an independent functional assessment- My employer?
I doubt they would do that, they will probably just say OK.
Ticket to work, I don't want to be getting any new training at my age.

mrbreezeet1 11-20-2014 02:44 PM

I thought I read that it didn't matter how much you made in the trial work period, that you still got to keep your check(ssdi) and what ever you made working.
But I asked SS one time, and she said only up to a certain amount you could earn, but then I quoted the article I had read, and she said I was right.
I am looking for it(The article)
here is where it says it here.
http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page1-13.html

SSDI recipients are entitled to test their ability to work and continue to receive full benefits regardless of whether they make more than the SGA amount, for a nine-month trial work period. For 2014, the SSA considers any month where a person has a monthly income of more than $770 a trial work month. If you are self-employed, any month where you work more than 80 hours (or earn more than $770) is a trial work month.

Is this www.disabilitysecrets.com usually accurate.

But then I think you said one time, If I was working the trial work period,
It would most likely trigger a Social Security Review, and they would send the long form.

And do you know if it is true that you can earn over the SGA (Substantial Gainful Activity) and still get to keep the SSDI and what ever I earn?

How could I prove that to SS if they try to tell me otherwise?

LIT LOVE 11-20-2014 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbreezeet1 (Post 1108887)
I thought I read that it didn't matter how much you made in the trial work period, that you still got to keep your check(ssdi) and what ever you made working.
But I asked SS one time, and she said only up to a certain amount you could earn, but then I quoted the article I had read, and she said I was right.
I am looking for it(The article)
here is where it says it here.
http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page1-13.html

SSDI recipients are entitled to test their ability to work and continue to receive full benefits regardless of whether they make more than the SGA amount, for a nine-month trial work period. For 2014, the SSA considers any month where a person has a monthly income of more than $770 a trial work month. If you are self-employed, any month where you work more than 80 hours (or earn more than $770) is a trial work month.

Is this www.disabilitysecrets.com usually accurate.

But then I think you said one time, If I was working the trial work period,
It would most likely trigger a Social Security Review, and they would send the long form.

And do you know if it is true that you can earn over the SGA (Substantial Gainful Activity) and still get to keep the SSDI and what ever I earn?

How could I prove that to SS if they try to tell me otherwise?

disabilitysecrets is the website of NOLO publishers which writes the most comprehensive guide about SSDI and SSI benefits. Each article will state who it is written by---often an attorney. I've NEVER found incorrect info on their website and consider them trustworthy.

When in doubt you can always refer to the ssa.gov website.

READ THIS BROCHURE!
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10095.pdf

http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dwork.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dwork1.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dwork2.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dwork3.htm


Yes, you can make more than the $1070 per month and collect it AND your SSDI benefit for up to 9 months. That 9 months is NOT guaranteed though. SS can still perform a CDR and determine you no longer qualify for SSDI. You MUST report any work activity AND continue to have a disabling impairment in order to qualify for a Trial Work Period.

They're trying to encourage the disabled to work despite their limitations. If you're healthy, than you'll have a period where you still "double dip" but it could be shorter than 9 months in all honesty. Enrolling in a Ticket To Work Program helps you "•Be protected from receiving a medical continuing disability review while using the Ticket and making the expected progress with work or educational goals." http://www.ssa.gov/work/overview.html#a0=1

Working will absolutely trigger the long form.

"How could I prove that to SS if they try to tell me otherwise?" Prove what to SS?

You need to also consider that you might return to work and discover you are no longer physically capable of the job. Then you'd have a failed work attempt and just continue receiving SSDI benefits (although you might need to provide more medical documentation from an expert about your PN.)


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