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KathrynL 06-19-2012 11:29 AM

Completed Nerve Conduction & EMG-Results
 
I've already been diagnosed with RSD type I in my left arm, but I underwent nerve conduction studies and EMG today for both my doctor and short term disability. My EMG was normal, as I expected. My nerve conduction studies showed mild abnormalities with latency in nerve transmission. They also measured the temperature difference between the two arms. There was a 5 degree celsius temperature variation between my good and bad arm with my RSD arm being colder. My temperature does seem to vary though according to my pain level and time of day. When they measured the temperature, my RSD arm felt more normal temperature wise than usual. Usually it feels much colder, so my guess is usually the temperature difference is greater.

I asked the doctor who performed the tests if he agreed with my neurologist's diagnosis with RSD, type I and he said given my previous history of RSD in my left foot and my pain, hypersensitivity, temperature changes, and an observed tremor, that he does agree. However, like many doctors, it was hard to read him.

He called my 5 degree celsius temperature difference "borderline," but I read that all you need for RSD is a 1.1 degree celsius temperature difference. Which is correct?


ETA: The doctor attribute the latency in nerve transmission to the colder temperature in my RSD arm and overall temperature difference.

alt1268 06-19-2012 03:09 PM

You do not have to have all of the symptoms at one time and temperature in 2 extermities should be the same. not 1 or 5 degree's difference.

If you have a history of rsd, elsewhere and you are having similiar symptoms, more then likely you are having rsd in that portion. unfortunately there is no real test to determine this.

painman2009 06-20-2012 08:49 PM

heres a kick.. you can have RSD even with out a temperature difference.. you don't need to have all symptoms.. not even the most common symptoms.. do not let the dr,s tell you differently. as there is a lot of documentation supporting what we are telling you...speak with your doctors and remember you might know more than them... that is why a lot of us see multiple dr,s so we can put this jigsaw puzzle together...

KathrynL 06-26-2012 11:32 AM

Thanks for the responses. I feel like every doctor tells you something different and they all want to think they're the definitive expert. It makes my head spin. I'm so lucky to have this forum. :) I called my neurologist today to get her take on the results, so hopefully she'll help to clarify.

All my RSD symptoms, besides the pain and burning, all tend to vary depending on time of day and other variables, so it's so hard. Doctors don't always understand that.

lolo217 09-09-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KathrynL (Post 889975)
I've already been diagnosed with RSD type I in my left arm, but I underwent nerve conduction studies and EMG today for both my doctor and short term disability. My EMG was normal, as I expected. My nerve conduction studies showed mild abnormalities with latency in nerve transmission. They also measured the temperature difference between the two arms. There was a 5 degree celsius temperature variation between my good and bad arm with my RSD arm being colder. My temperature does seem to vary though according to my pain level and time of day. When they measured the temperature, my RSD arm felt more normal temperature wise than usual. Usually it feels much colder, so my guess is usually the temperature difference is greater.

I asked the doctor who performed the tests if he agreed with my neurologist's diagnosis with RSD, type I and he said given my previous history of RSD in my left foot and my pain, hypersensitivity, temperature changes, and an observed tremor, that he does agree. However, like many doctors, it was hard to read him.

He called my 5 degree celsius temperature difference "borderline," but I read that all you need for RSD is a 1.1 degree celsius temperature difference. Which is correct?
ETA: The doctor attribute the latency in nerve transmission to the colder temperature in my RSD arm and overall temperature difference.

wanna be friends? i'm new here, have rsd in forearm and elbow peace and god bless

KathrynL 11-01-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lolo217 (Post 913088)
wanna be friends? i'm new here, have rsd in forearm and elbow peace and god bless

Thank you! I love new friends. It's so hard for people without RSD to understand.

pg2005 11-01-2012 07:44 PM

Like other posters have mentioned, you don't need to have every symptom. A quick google search should bring up all the criteria. I know that my affected area is cold it does not even register on exams. But of course sometimes it's relatively normal too. Rsd is a tricky beast!

Kevscar 11-01-2012 08:38 PM

Print this out and take it with you.

The Symptoms
There are FOUR Main Symptoms/Criteria for a diagnosis of CRPS:
• Constant chronic burning pain - (includes allodynia; extreme sensitivity to touch, sound, vibration, wind, etc.)
• Inflammation - this can affect the appearance of the skin, bruising and mottling for example.
• Spasms-in blood vessels and muscles of the extremities
• Insomnia/Emotional Disturbance (including limbic system changes such as short-term memory problems, concentration difficulties, and irritability)
Not all four symptoms are required for a diagnosis but most patients do have at least three out of the four at any one time. What makes this disease even more difficult for Drs to diagnose and treat is that patients can present with different symptoms at different times, even from one appointment to the next.

The CONSTANT PAIN can be described as burning pain as if a red hot poker were inserted into the affected area; as well as throbbing, aching stabbing, sharp, tingling, and/or crushing in the affected area (this is not always the site of the trauma). The affected area is usually hot or cold to the touch. The pain will be more severe than expected for the type of injury sustained. This is a hallmark of the disease. Allodynia is usually present as well (extreme sensitivity to touch). Something as simple as a light touch, clothing, sheets, even a breeze across the skin on the affected area can cause an extreme amount of pain to the patient. Pain can also be increased by sounds and vibrations, especially sharp sudden sounds and deep vibrations. This makes it increasingly difficult on the spouses, children, and other family members; as their softest touch can now cause pain instead of comfort. If the patient has not been properly diagnosed yet and these sensations not properly explained, these symptoms can cause extreme duress and confusion to all involved.

The INFLAMMATION is not always present. It can take various forms, the skin may appear mottled, become easily bruised, bleeding in the skin, small red dots, have a shiny, dry, red, and tight look to it. An increase in sweating usually occurs as well as swelling in and around the joints (shoulders, knees, wrists). In some patients a lack of sweating may also occur, and may even go back and forth between the two.

The SPASMS result in a feeling of coldness in the affected extremity as well as body fatigue, skin rashes, low-grade fever, swelling (edema), sores, dystonia, and tremors. The spasms can be confined to one area or be rolling in nature; moving up and down the leg, arm, or back.

The fourth part of this square is INSOMNIA and EMOTIONAL DISTURBANCE. CRPS affects the limbic system of the brain. Doctor Hooshang Hooshmand described it well; " The fact that the sympathetic sensory nerve fibers carrying the sympathetic pain and impulse up to the brain terminate in the part of the brain called "limbic system". This limbic (marginal) system which is positioned between the old brain (brainstem) and the new brain (cerebral hemispheres) is mainly located over the temporal and frontal lobes of the brain." This causes many problems that might not initially be linked to a disease like CRPS. Chief among them are Depression, Insomnia and short-term memory problems. CRPS can cause Depression, NOT the other way around.


ADDITIONAL SYMPTOMS

There are many additional symptoms that can be part of CRPS besides the four main ones. These include but are not limited to;

- Changes in skin temperature (warmer or cooler compared to the healthy/opposite limb.
- changes in skin color (skin may appear red, dusky, covered with red dots, cyanotic, blotchy, or pale).
- hypersensitivity to touch, sound, vibration, wind, noise, temperature, barometric pressure changes, water temperature, etc.
- irritability.
- depression, fatigue, and/or insomnia.
- changes in hair/nail growth (nails can become brittle, cracked, or grooved - increased/decreased hair/nail growth).
- skin can become shiny, changes in sweating patterns - increase/decreases
- bone and muscle loss/changes, atrophy/weakness.
- swelling and stiffness in affected joints.
- throbbing, crushing, tingling, shooting, aching, stabbing, burning pain in the affected area.
- tremors (shakes).
- problems moving the affected extremity/body part.
- migraines/cluster headaches.

These symptoms can come and go and alternate over time, changing from month to month and year to year depending what stage the patient is in

This will spread in 77% of sufferers and in 10% will go full body, (all 4 limbs, neck, head, eyes and internal organs.
8% of sufferers may get wounds which never heal.


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