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mrsD 09-18-2006 05:11 PM

Thank you Thank you, DocJohn.
 
Welcome everyone!

This forum is for sharing experiences with complimentary solutions for health,
other than prescription drugs.

That includes of course, vitamins, minerals, other nutrients like SAMe, amino acids, herbs, etc.

Some of you who know me, know that I have references based on MedLine
research for drug induced nutrient depletions. These are situations, where a needed drug has the side effect of increasing your need(s) for certain nutrients to maintain health. This is a new discipline, and many doctors are unaware of it.
So feel free to ask anytime regarding your therapies (which should NOT be discontinued)...for that information. I provide links and back-up data that
you can print out and take to your doctor. (Lyme's patients often experience this problem, as well as those taking antiseizure drugs).
If you are more comfortable with privacy, you can PM me here anytime.
Also many people with medical problems experience mal-absorption from their food (Celiac, Crohn's), or fail to absorb certain vitamins due to
age or genetics. (B12)

I have professional training in this subject, and am a licensed medical professional (for over 35yrs).

In some cases, there have been reports of reversing Bipolar symptoms (Margo Kidder for example), ADHD (in our own home)
Tourette's (CheMar has done this) and I hope others will visit here with their stories as well.

I hope to see some old friends here, as well as new faces.

Jomar 09-18-2006 05:26 PM

I like to add some links
 
for homeopathic and other alternative therapies.

some don't fit in as vitamins or supplements -
but they fit as far as the more natural non - drug stand point

Electrotherapy
http://www.vitality-web.com/backstor...Stimulator.htm
http://www.medi-stim.com/overview.htm
http://www.rehabpub.com/features/82004/3.asp
http://www.spine-health.com/topics/c...ctro/el01.html
http://www.skylarkdevice.com/web-site/ele_thera.htm
http://www.bmls.com/electrodes/epc.php
http://rehabilicare.com/protocol.html

Laser/ Infared/ far infrared
http://laser.nu/
http://www.purehealthsystems.com/infrared.html
http://www.purehealthsystems.com/mus...in-relief.html
http://www.toolsforwellness.com/far-infrared.html

Natural vision improvement
http://www.i-see.org/eyecharts.html
http://www.rebuildyourvision.com/order
http://www.improve-vision.com/

Medical/Wellness/Alternative
http://www.wellnessresources.com/pro.../protocols.htm
http://www.vitamin-insight.com/dieta...anagement.aspx
http://www.nwhealthsolutions.com/
http://www.mercola.com/index.html
http://www.consumerlab.com/
http://www.youngagain.com/wellnesstest.html

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/simplified.php
http://www.hmedicine.com/news/guide/single/singles/all
http://www.webhomeopath.com/en/jsp/login.jsp

http://www.holisticmed.com/www/bodywork.html
http://www.whatreallyworks.co.uk/sta...article_ID=253
http://www.wendi.com/html/pain.html
http://www.NationalPainFoundation.org
http://www2.rpa.net/~lrandall/index.html

Drug/Vitamin/supplement- interaction checkers & info

http://www.drugintel.com/
http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html
http://www.drugdigest.org
http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Home/0,4082,,00.html

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/
http://myelectronicmd.com/
http://www.medical-library.org/mddx_index.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=suppl...en-US:official
http://www.lifechallenges.org/create/creative.html

mrsD 09-18-2006 05:29 PM

Thanks Jo...
 
aren't you my old "IFC" friend?

You are certainly a great resource!

Chemar 09-18-2006 08:59 PM

wunnerful!! :D

thanks so much for adding this Forum DocJohn and for opening the discussion MrsD and Jo55 for the great links.

I will be along tomorrow to add some too

reverett123 09-18-2006 09:09 PM

Good thread
 
I have a suggestion or two (the room gasps in astonishment) :D

The folks over at the celiac corner maintain "The Gluten File" and what I recall of it is very impressive. They also maintained enough backup to be able to restore after BT1 slipped away.

A similar system might be a good idea here. I don't know if it would be better to have one big file and risk it becoming a junk drawer or to have individual files for specific nutrients or groups or disorders or what. A "Vitamin B12" file? An "anti-inflammatory" file? An "Anti-cancer" file?

Does anyone know what they do for their Gluten File?

-Rick

mrsD 09-18-2006 10:21 PM

Great idea!
 
Rose, has already made a B12 website on Google (like the Gluten File). She is still working on it, I believe.

Here is her link:
http://roseannster.googlepages.com/

And I have copies of my EFA, B6, Carnitine, Magnesium, Zinc threads
and will start moving some of that data over here over time.

A new topic will be here shortly, on the value of Inositol, on OCD, Depression,
diabetes, insulin resistance, and anxiety.

jccgf 09-19-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 8251)
I have a suggestion or two (the room gasps in astonishment) :D

The folks over at the celiac corner maintain "The Gluten File" and what I recall of it is very impressive. They also maintained enough backup to be able to restore after BT1 slipped away.

A similar system might be a good idea here. I don't know if it would be better to have one big file and risk it becoming a junk drawer or to have individual files for specific nutrients or groups or disorders or what. A "Vitamin B12" file? An "anti-inflammatory" file? An "Anti-cancer" file?

Does anyone know what they do for their Gluten File?

-Rick

Hi Rick,

The Gluten File is primarily a personal endeavor of mine, that represents many hundreds of hours on my part across about five years. I had conceptualized it, and collected the bulk of the research data via PubMed, google, google scholar, etc., before the GS/CD forum even opened on the old, old, BT board. It took eight months to get the forum opened, and I was working on it the entire while I waited. I was certainly inspired by the folks on the PN forum (mrsd, rose, legna and others) and their environment of research, and I was driven by my family's unique presentation of gluten sensitivity and the fact that our doctors seemed to know nothing about it. In the years following, I have continued to maintain it with new information that I, and others, have found. A couple new pages have been added~ Anne contributed the entire Vitamin D thread, for example, and she had kept that data and resent it to me.


Having said that, The Gluten File is just a small fraction of the accumulated information we had on the forum. Missing are the long threads of dialogue that followed, with input, interpretation, and testimonials of others. I also kept an index of threads I believed to be most valuable (probably 20 or 30 created by various members of the community) in TGF, but those threads and all the information in them are gone now, too, so the index is of little use. (Except possibly as a guide for searching for cached copies...of which I have not attempted to do in wide scale) We also lost our Recipe thread that a great deal of effort was put into by other forum members. Various food study threads....lost. So many great informative threads...gone. We lost our useful websites, that contained some information that wasn't necessarily in The Gluten File. We lost our Diagnostic Journey's thread that was of considerable value. We losts many posts of PubMed abstracts, online articles, etc, that were of interest~ but not quite relative enough to be put in TGF. WE LOST ALOT!

So, in reality, although The Gluten File looks big (and it is), we still lost an awful lot. I had the bulk of The Gluten File saved from my original creation of it. I had copied my threads of the TGF once, in May 2005, so that I would have some of the updated information... just in case another crash happened (I had already needed to start from scratch before)...but even with a year old back up, I still had to re-search PubMed for all the pertinent articles of the last year.

We were organized from day 1, however, in creating informational type threads. If someone had an area of interest, they would begin a thread on it, and others would add to it. Most of those threads were merely indexed/linked in TGF, so they were all lost. I think people who spend large amounts of time researching and posting information probably should create personal files of the data. I always work in a word file first, and then transfer the data over onto the forum..that way I always have my original work.

Cara

west1 09-19-2006 10:35 AM

Hi mrsd,

You probably remember me from OBT. I had recently found out I had a Vit D and possibly other deficiencies (probably med induced) and had been doing a lot of research into this (was also trying to find out if there would be any update(s) to the Drug-Induced Nutrient Depletion Handbook).

I had typed up a long update (several pages) in MS Word with various research links (PubMed, etc.) and was about to post it when OBT/BT1 went down. I still have this update and have also continued to research additional material, however unfortunately without the initial information in the OBT thread I started, as well as the timing involved (now over 2 months later), it would be hard to update all of the information here in a way that would make sense. I suspect some of the information in the thread could be accessed via Google caches, but not all of it. I will plan from here on to backup important information.

My current plan will be to just continue to wait for OBT/BT1 to come back up and either add updates to my thread there, or try to pull that thread over here and update it here. Either way it will be a challenge to try to make everything make sense due to the timing involved (certain new information I am finding tends to make previous findings obsolete). Anyway, I will try to do the best I can.

Good to catch up with you and others again! :)

KTM5665 09-19-2006 10:43 AM

whatchya know about mito and vitamin K, Mrs D?! twins started on it recently. I have read it needs to be combined with vitamin c. Thoughts?:D

mrsD 09-19-2006 10:43 AM

great seeing you again, west1!
 
I am thinking myself that I would do both forums, if OBT comes back.

Your enthusiasm here is very welcome! So please jump in and post
your work as your feel comfortable.

Every pair of eyes that sees it may benefit in some way! Got to spread that
word you know!;)


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