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filipe 12-21-2009 02:38 PM

Dermographism/pressure urticaria and Neuropathic pain
 
Hi,

Anyone notice a relationship between is NP and a dermographism/urticaria on their skin?

When I wake up I have a lot of marks/rinkles on my back and arms, etc, and a burning sensation without itchy...

Thanks

JoshuaY46012 12-21-2009 02:42 PM

Sounds to me like you're dehydrated or you don't move in your sleep.

When you sleep and something I.E. a seam of a blanket is pressed up against your arm for a while you're going to wake up with a mark........ It might burn because it's been pressed up against the blanket for so long. This happens to me, has for as long as I can remember....

I think you over analyze a little too much, just because your arm itches doesn't mean you have a paralyzing spider bite, most likely it was just a harmless bug.

filipe 12-21-2009 02:48 PM

No Joshua, the problem is that I got this dermographism since I did the MRI. I thought it had something to do with neuropathic pain because people say their skin is hypersensitive to touch... I thought it means their skin became marked or something. In my case, it wasn't sheet marks. It was the marks of my vertebras on my skin from inside...what you think? Is it consistent with small fibers damage?

JoshuaY46012 12-21-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filipe (Post 602173)
No Joshua, the problem is that I got this dermographism since I did the MRI. I thought it had something to do with neuropathic pain because people say their skin is hypersensitive to touch... I thought it means their skin became marked or something. In my case, it wasn't sheet marks. It was the marks of my vertebras on my skin from inside...what you think? Is it consistent with small fibers damage?

No... Dermatographic Urticaria is due to histamine release *this wouldn't come from an MRI*

This is a picture of someone with Dermatographic Urticaria http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._urticaria.jpg

Your back vertebrae WOULD NOT produce Dermatographic marks, it has to be an outside source such as you running your fingernail along your skin, it will make raised red lines, I get Dermatographic Marks and lines all the time.

I found you on Medhelp asking tons of questions just like these, I answered a few of them.... Here is a picture of your back you posted on Medhelp, these ARE NOT Dermatographic Marks, dermatographic marks are raised, like bug bits in a way, these are IMPRESSIONS
http://s3.amazonaws.com/medhelp_imag..._fs?1258314187

You yourself said you have these when you wake up :
"When I wake up I have a lot of marks/rinkles on my back and arms, etc, and a burning sensation without itchy..."

We can not help you if you wont let us, you continue to ask the same questions OVER AND OVER with no regard to what we've previously posted.

filipe 12-21-2009 03:12 PM

So what are they? Drs say it is dermographism. It was caused by MRI. What do you think this is? I'm tiered of looking and asking. Nobody seems to know....:( I'm so depressed with this....can you help me? Please help me figure it out?

cyclelops 12-21-2009 03:17 PM

I can't see a thing on that picture. Looks normal to me.

mrsD 12-21-2009 03:19 PM

I think these are creases from your sheets or bed clothes. I am surprised your mother or wife hasn't told you what these marks are!

These are depressions.... dermographia are elevations of swelling due to histamine release (allergy).

If these itch it is because of soap residues in the sheet or your clothes. Marks like these typically fade when you remove the
item causing the depressions. It can take an hour or more.

Long term depressions may indicate pitting edema, which means the tissue under the skin is holding water for some reason. But your back does not look swollen or fat so that is very unlikely!

Most slender people have vertebra that show ...it means nothing serious.

I do not think this is from any MRI. I think you have become hyperaware of everything you ignored before your injury. Since attention to medical diagnosis you have become overly concerned over normal phenomena. You know I hate say this but guys tend to react like this when they get their first "serious" illness. Women are used to all sorts of pain/symptoms migraines, edema everything uncomfortable when they start their periods. Males just don't have that experience which starts at 12 or 13 for women!

filipe 12-21-2009 03:25 PM

It's not itchy.

And sorry to bother you guys. I'm through a lot of stress lately. And you're right they are depressions. It is not dermographism as Dr tell me, and it is not normal, and it was caused by the MRI and noone knows how to explain me why...that is why i feel so lonely... I think like I'm taking crazy pills (this was taken from Zoolander movie)

Sorry :(

cyclelops 12-21-2009 03:26 PM

Granted menses are bad, but menopause is the real challenge.:D

JoshuaY46012 12-21-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 602197)
I think these are creases from your sheets or bed clothes. I am surprised your mother or wife hasn't told you what these marks are!

These are depressions.... dermographia are elevations of swelling due to histamine release (allergy).

If these itch it is because of soap residues in the sheet or your clothes. Marks like these typically fade when you remove the
item causing the depressions. It can take an hour or more.

Long term depressions may indicate pitting edema, which means the tissue under the skin is holding water for some reason. But your back does not look swollen or fat so that is very unlikely!

Most slender people have vertebra that show ...it means nothing serious.

I do not think this is from any MRI. I think you have become hyperaware of everything you ignored before your injury. Since attention to medical diagnosis you have become overly concerned over normal phenomena. You know I hate say this but guys tend to react like this when they get their first "serious" illness. Women are used to all sorts of pain/symptoms migraines, edema everything uncomfortable when they start their periods. Males just don't have that experience which starts at 12 or 13 for women!

Wow, I have never looked at it like this :) Great insight, I do know that I was a bit over the edge when things started coming my way. I'm still fairly new to this, and pretty young for this, but you learn fast! Overreacting NEVER helps these situations, you've got to learn to take time and breathe!


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