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free11 04-23-2010 06:30 AM

working overseas on ssd
 
has anyone ever been caught working overseas with unreported income while collecting disability?

what might happen if someone tried to do that?

thanks

JayWhite1983 04-23-2010 09:01 AM

Social Security will probably sue you for the difference, and consider that you aren't disabled.

SSDIHelp 04-23-2010 02:27 PM

Nolo's Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by free11 (Post 647408)
has anyone ever been caught working overseas with unreported income while collecting disability?

what might happen if someone tried to do that?

thanks

I agree with previou poster, if the SSA found out you would have to pay back all benefits and I think you are comitting fraud.
Nolo's 4th edition (his latest & best) discusses living overseas.
I would check very carefully with the government of the country you are considering whether they have taxes and if they report to the US expatriates working in their country.
You can earn up to $1,000a month legally (after expenses) and still lmaintain SSDI so if you stay under that limit there's no problem.
Yo do need to return to the US every so often, I thonk it's every 6 months.
Your airfare, etc. would be part of what you deduct from your income to help you stay under the $1,000 limit.

plgerrard 04-23-2010 03:14 PM

Here is the link to SSA's page for collecting SSDI benefits while living outside the country. Near the bottom is a list of things you must report. An item on that list is returning to work.

http://ftp.ssa.gov/pubs/10137.html

LIT LOVE 04-24-2010 02:07 AM

What you are considering is called Concealed Work Activity.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/oig/hotline/reporting.htm

You might want to read the following:

Postal Service Employee Sentenced to 30 Months in Prison for Theft of Disability Benefits

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/oig/co...ig07132006.htm

SSDIHelp 04-24-2010 06:32 PM

Great Post
 
Thanks for the info. It was a great post

Jim091866 04-27-2010 03:58 AM

hey..
 
Free11,

If you're trying to do this or thinking about it let me know so I can give ya some help on behalf of every one who is disabled rightfully and can't collect.

free11 04-27-2010 06:08 AM

What countries report earnings to the usa?
How can that be determined?

I read the link about all the fraud type cases.
These are all people working in the usa (and had significant resources. Illegal stupid and greedy. :eek:)

Has anyone been caught working overseas collecting ssd?
Again what countries report earnings to the usa?

thanks all

Janke 04-27-2010 08:15 AM

I agree with you that there are people concealing work in the US and they are doing something illegal, stupid and greedy (I would add the word fraudulent). So concealing work outside the US is also illegal, stupid, greedy and fraudulent.

Won't help you do something illegal, stupid, greedy or fraudulent.

And Jim 0918, if people are rightfully disabled and can't collect, then they are also not able to work even if they leave the US. If they can work outside the US, they can work inside the US. So those people cannot be considered rightfully disabled. They may have the opinion that they are disabled, but the law must not agree with them.

free11 04-28-2010 06:37 AM

good points made
the issue is not so simple nor cut and dry
much more to it than than that
thankfully research, q and a, and discussion are allowed

has anyone been caught working on ssd overseas?
what countries report earnings back to the usa?

thanks all
good replies


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