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reverett123 09-07-2010 08:55 AM

Papaya and passion flower
 
There was a flurry of interest in a papaya extract that seemed to benefit the Previous Pope. That was eight years ago and little has been heard of it since. It was being promoted by a French doctor named Luc Montaigner who went on to win the Nobel in 2008 for his work in isolating the HIV virus.

I had not paid much attention to it, I admit. But last night I noticed that I was doing unusually well and began casting about for reasons. The only thing that stood out was a fruit salad that I had made. One of the main ingredients was a can of Dole "Tropical Mixed Fruit" with the two main ingredients being pineapple and papaya packed in passion fruit juice. Passion fruit is often said to help PD but little research is available.

Naturally I am going out and buy a 55-gallon drumof the stuff today but I thought I would see if anyone has any experience here.

madamlash 09-07-2010 09:08 AM

Mexican vacation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 692561)
There was a flurry of interest in a papaya extract that seemed to benefit the Previous Pope. That was eight years ago and little has been heard of it since. It was being promoted by a French doctor named Luc Montaigner who went on to win the Nobel in 2008 for his work in isolating the HIV virus.

I had not paid much attention to it, I admit. But last night I noticed that I was doing unusually well and began casting about for reasons. The only thing that stood out was a fruit salad that I had made. One of the main ingredients was a can of Dole "Tropical Mixed Fruit" with the two main ingredients being pineapple and papaya packed in passion fruit juice. Passion fruit is often said to help PD but little research is available.

Naturally I am going out and buy a 55-gallon drumof the stuff today but I thought I would see if anyone has any experience here.

Hmmm. I was in Cancun last year and thought I was feeling better just cause of the vacation. However, every morning there was a wonderful breakfast buffet where I pigged out on fresh papaya. OK... off to the grocery store. Oh, I should add that after Pope John Paul's papaya experience, I bought the little packages of papaya powder and also several bottles of fermented papaya juice but can't say that I noticed a big difference. But, my meds were in huge flux at the time so maybe now is a good time to revisit. Film at 11.

lurkingforacure 09-07-2010 09:28 AM

pineapple
 
pineapple has bromelain in it which is very good for the gut. can't say anything about papaya, but any fruit is best when eaten fresh, I would think.

If you don't like a fruit that has beneficial properties in it, try blending it into a smoothie, or perhaps even better, mixing it in with some gut-healthy yogurt.

Let us know what the shipping is on that 55 gallon drum of papaya, Rick!

Conductor71 09-07-2010 09:51 AM

Save you a trip to the archives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 692561)
There was a flurry of interest in a papaya extract that seemed to benefit the Previous Pope. That was eight years ago and little has been heard of it since. It was being promoted by a French doctor named Luc Montaigner who went on to win the Nobel in 2008 for his work in isolating the HIV virus.

Naturally I am going out and buy a 55-gallon drumof the stuff today but I thought I would see if anyone has any experience here.

I found this online for those who are curious; I am sure this is here in the archives, but posting again for newbies. Looks like fresh is not quite the key to the concoction; maybe the canning process helps somehow explaining Rick's improvement. I haven't noticed any difference in eating the fresh fruit.

-Laura


Behind the Scenes

What Dr. Montagnier gave the Pope is a product called Immun'Age FPP (Fermented Papaya Preparation), which is manufactured by a Japanese company called Osato. Immun'Age is produced from non-genetically modified papayas that are grown in Hawaii. The papayas undergo a fermentation process and are then dried and ground into a fine powder. The final product is packed in 3-gram foil packs. Immun'Age was first developed in 1969 and has been on the Japanese market for about the last 10 years. It is sold primarily as an immune booster.

Dr. Montagnier feels that the product's ability to scavenge free radicals is what makes it effective in helping Parkinson's disease. .

Dr. Montagnier recommended that the Pope take two sachets, or packets, of the powder daily-one in the morning and another in the evening. For best results, the powder should be dumped under the tongue and taken on an empty stomach. Dr. Montagnier says that whenever he first feels a cold coming on he immediately takes two sachets, which stops the cold before it gets started. This seems to work only if it is taken at the very first sign of a cold.

Source: Altmedangel

reverett123 09-07-2010 08:40 PM

Blimey! It seems to work!
 
I swear it stopped my dyskinesias tonight! I had half the salad from last night and was twisting around to the inner drummer so I thought what the hey and ate it. Within ten minutes they were gone! This is kind of weird....

Tomorrow I will lay in some supplies and start keeping notes.
It may be the papaya or the passionfruit or both. Inquiring minds want to know!

reverett123 09-07-2010 08:52 PM

From the London Times, March 2003
 
VATICAN sources have attributed a recent recovery in the Pope’s health in part to an “alternative medicine” cure made from papaya extract.

The Pope, who will be 83 in May, has been transformed from a hunched figure, able to speak only with difficulty, to a more upright, relaxed and coherent man who “looks at least five years younger”, Vatican insiders say. The change is the talk of Rome.

The Pope suffers from Parkinson’s disease, which has increasingly forced him to move around on a mobile platform and hand his speeches to others to read. His left hand trembled uncontrollably and his speech was badly slurred.

But he has started to show what some describe as a “miraculous recovery”. The improvement was noticeable when he spoke to the Italian parliament for nearly an hour last November, but has accelerated in recent weeks to the point where aides and those who meet him in private audiences have been astonished by his new-found vigour. “He is a different man,” one said.

The Pope is speaking clearly and coherently, his breathing is much less laboured, he often walks unaided and his posture has straightened. His gestures are decisive and the tremor in his left hand has all but disappeared.

More at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1119108.ece

just_me_77 09-07-2010 11:35 PM

Might want to add Coconut Oil to your Papaya!
 
Rick,

I found several links to Coconut Oil and it has some interesting properties.

Have to wait to post the links.......have not been here long enough.

I had actually bought some for cooking purposes at my local grocery and it is Certified Organic. Starting by taking a teaspoon at bedtime. If it can't hurt me, I am more than anxious to try it.

Keep us posted on your results please.

Mike

reverett123 09-08-2010 05:51 PM

Well, it's 6:00 PM and about an hour ago I ate a can of the fruit mix. I was a little frazzled (it's a long story) with the last pill at 3:00 and the next at 6:00. My wife came back fromher supply run and the time was right for a test of sorts. I was a little tense in my muscles. About ten minutes later there was no denying that my upper body in particular was unusually relaxed. Things kind of hung looser than usual. It has been an hour and a half and the bliss has passed, but there is something there.

My next step will be to try when first out of bed.

reverett123 09-08-2010 05:55 PM

Welcome to the group. My wife uses coconut oil and there have been some interesting discussion of it here. (Use the search function on the first page.) It is on my to-try list.

rd42 09-08-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 692561)
Naturally I am going out and buy a 55-gallon drumof the stuff ....

Too funny Rick. I can't say I'm surprised. :D

I've actually been trying grapefruit juice sometimes with my doses. A fresh grapefruit seems to speed up the lag time a little in a dose, but nothing spectacular.

May be a grapefruit/passion fruit cocktail (not the corn syrup kind) would be good. I don't know how good it would taste though.

Robert


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