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imark3000 09-11-2010 03:36 PM

Good Vibrations for Parkinson's
 
I believe it ! Any body has reference to Canadian research in this topic??

Good Vibrations for Parkinson's
Two years ago, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's and thought his days on the links were over.

"They keep saying there's a cure around the corner, cure around the corner, but I don't know. I can't wait," Voelker said.

His meds made him nauseous and drowsy, so he joined a clinical study for a more tolerable treatment.

"It's very relaxing. It puts me to sleep almost every time," Voelker said.

"It" is a vibration chair. The cushion connects to an amplifier.

"It's almost like there's a big subwoofer in the mattress that vibrates the entire body," Dr. Sachin Kapur, from Rush University Medical Center in Chicago, told Ivanhoe.

"They're sound waves that generate very strong vibrations. This is not a little buzz. This is not a little massage. This is a very strong vibration," Christopher Goetz, M.D., from Rush University Medical Center, explained to Ivanhoe.

It's based off the work of a 19th century French doctor.

"He noticed that patients who went on a carriage ride or train trip, when they descended from the carriage, their Parkinsonism was much less," Dr. Goetz said.

Experts say the vibrations travel through the spinal cord to the brain, which may help with basic motor skills.

A Canadian study showed vibration therapy improved gait, stability and posture. It also decreased tremors and rigidity and helped those who didn't respond to standard meds.

"It goes for about 40 minutes, and by the time I'm done, I've almost stopped shaking," Voelker said.

The chair isn't a cure, but it's how Voelker spells relief.

"It's like I get a little break," he said.

The current study is still enrolling Parkinson's patients at Rush University Medical Center. Patients sit in the chair for 30 minutes a day -- for one month

reverett123 09-11-2010 06:41 PM

Be on guard
 
There was a flurry of PR posts a year or two ago similar to this. Turned out that the miracle patient (only one guy then too) was the reporter's father and their company was selling chairs at $4000 a pop.

Thing is ou can buy the equivalentfor less than a hundred dollars. They are sold as immersion chairs for gamers. Or get some kid driving a boom box to help you and you can rattle your dental work from an auto sound shop.

imark3000 09-11-2010 07:06 PM

agree
 
I agree many are trying to make money out of our malady. Some are dishonest but some are (honest).
That is why I am looking for canadian research papers.
Apart from buying the 'magic' chair, my Taichi routine includes a shaking exercise. For about a minuite, you purposly shake your body as hard as you can starting with hands, arms, chest, legs and try shake every part of your body.
I aways feel better after doing it. :)
Imad

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 694290)
There was a flurry of PR posts a year or two ago similar to this. Turned out that the miracle patient (only one guy then too) was the reporter's father and their company was selling chairs at $4000 a pop.

Thing is ou can buy the equivalentfor less than a hundred dollars. They are sold as immersion chairs for gamers. Or get some kid driving a boom box to help you and you can rattle your dental work from an auto sound shop.


madamlash 09-11-2010 08:25 PM

good vibrations?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imark3000 (Post 694294)
I agree many are trying to make money out of our malady. Some are dishonest but some are (honest).
That is why I am looking for canadian research papers.
Apart from buying the 'magic' chair, my Taichi routine includes a shaking exercise. For about a minuite, you purposly shake your body as hard as you can starting with hands, arms, chest, legs and try shake every part of your body.
I aways feel better after doing it. :)
Imad

I tried one of these chairs, along with a vibration mat, both quite expensive. I really didn't notice any effect however, I didn't use them more than once. Way too much money. Here's an interesting and much cheaper option if someone wants to try it. You can use what's referred to as a "gaming chair." If you don't know what it is, find a teen that likes video games... makes the games more real to them. You can also use something known as a butt kicker which is a super powerful subwoofer that shakes your chair or bed, whatever you hook it up to. Then all you do is add the good vibrations. The butt kickers and gaming chairs are much, much cheaper. You can get the sound recordings from many sites including http://www.biowaves.com/ and http://www.vibroacoustic.org/
I can't say that this works but you sure can try it for less money. I happen to own and use quite a bit of Rife (sound frequency healing) equipment as well. I've tried it and didn't get any positive results. Additionally I have equipment that introduces sound vibration into the brain (shaktitechnology.com)... no positive result either. Just wanted to add my results in case anyone out there is planning a desperate and huge investment. I'm still experimenting and certainly will share if I get a reasonably positive result.

EmptyNest68 09-13-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 694290)
There was a flurry of PR posts a year or two ago similar to this. Turned out that the miracle patient (only one guy then too) was the reporter's father and their company was selling chairs at $4000 a pop.

Thing is ou can buy the equivalentfor less than a hundred dollars. They are sold as immersion chairs for gamers. Or get some kid driving a boom box to help you and you can rattle your dental work from an auto sound shop.

Hi Reverett...I noticed your "current blend" does not include any specific parkinson's meds, am I reading that correctly? Does this work well for you?

reverett123 09-13-2010 04:45 PM

My apologies. It is a bit misleading. I also take sinemet and requip but since I am approaching the 19 year mark since first symptoms that's not too bad. I also freely admit to that being a somewhat idealized regimen and I get pill fatigue like everyone else.

I have just added a section to my blog on possible therapeutics. At present it lists about 75 different things that *should* impact PD in some manner. There is more detail in a companion thread I am about to start.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmptyNest68 (Post 694643)
Hi Reverett...I noticed your "current blend" does not include any specific parkinson's meds, am I reading that correctly? Does this work well for you?


EmptyNest68 09-13-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 694695)
My apologies. It is a bit misleading. I also take sinemet and requip but since I am approaching the 19 year mark since first symptoms that's not too bad. I also freely admit to that being a somewhat idealized regimen and I get pill fatigue like everyone else.

I have just added a section to my blog on possible therapeutics. At present it lists about 75 different things that *should* impact PD in some manner. There is more detail in a companion thread I am about to start.

Thanks for your clarification! It seems like a good regimen. I was just curious about it; once I quit my meds and started rigorous exercise and good diet, I felt like a different person, better. I just got sick of taking medications & supplements. But I guess it's time to start back on the Sinemet.

llbl 09-21-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imark3000 (Post 694245)
I believe it ! Any body has reference to Canadian research in this topic??

Good Vibrations for Parkinson's
Two years ago, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's and thought his days on the links were over.

"They keep saying there's a cure around the corner, cure around the corner, but I don't know. I can't wait," Voelker said.

His meds made him nauseous and drowsy, so he joined a clinical study for a more tolerable treatment.

"It's very relaxing. It puts me to sleep almost every time," Voelker said.

"It" is a vibration chair. The cushion connects to an amplifier.

"It's almost like there's a big subwoofer in the mattress that vibrates the entire body," Dr. Sachin Kapur, from Rush University Medical Center in Chicago, told Ivanhoe.

"They're sound waves that generate very strong vibrations. This is not a little buzz. This is not a little massage. This is a very strong vibration," Christopher Goetz, M.D., from Rush University Medical Center, explained to Ivanhoe.

It's based off the work of a 19th century French doctor.

"He noticed that patients who went on a carriage ride or train trip, when they descended from the carriage, their Parkinsonism was much less," Dr. Goetz said.

Experts say the vibrations travel through the spinal cord to the brain, which may help with basic motor skills.

A Canadian study showed vibration therapy improved gait, stability and posture. It also decreased tremors and rigidity and helped those who didn't respond to standard meds.

"It goes for about 40 minutes, and by the time I'm done, I've almost stopped shaking," Voelker said.

The chair isn't a cure, but it's how Voelker spells relief.

"It's like I get a little break," he said.

The current study is still enrolling Parkinson's patients at Rush University Medical Center. Patients sit in the chair for 30 minutes a day -- for one month

It is TRUE, review my dad's blog for what it has done for him leebender.org

llbl 09-21-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverett123 (Post 694290)
There was a flurry of PR posts a year or two ago similar to this. Turned out that the miracle patient (only one guy then too) was the reporter's father and their company was selling chairs at $4000 a pop.

Thing is ou can buy the equivalentfor less than a hundred dollars. They are sold as immersion chairs for gamers. Or get some kid driving a boom box to help you and you can rattle your dental work from an auto sound shop.

YES my Dad is the first one that was on the Vibrational lounge, will be 2 years coming this January... I know first hand what it HAS DONE for him, and Nexneuro offers a full line of products, the one you are referring too is the unit that was designed for the Spa Industry, and yes it was more expensive, you need to review their website for correct pricing... and view my Dad's blog.. leebender.org to see what it has done for him!!! He will talk to and see anyone to discuss what he has done, it virtually saved his life..now he is able to exercise again, lifting hand weights, riding a stationary bike, putting 6000 miles on it...lol.. so far, eats healthy, takes wheat grass and alfalfa tablets......and his Neurologist just shakes his hear at his progress......and NO there is no other product as good as this one.....very sincerely, Linda, daughter

llbl 09-21-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llbl (Post 697251)
YES my Dad is the first one that was on the Vibrational lounge, will be 2 years coming this January... I know first hand what it HAS DONE for him, and Nexneuro offers a full line of products, the one you are referring too is the unit that was designed for the Spa Industry, and yes it was more expensive, you need to review their website for correct pricing... and view my Dad's blog.. leebender.org to see what it has done for him!!! He will talk to and see anyone to discuss what he has done, it virtually saved his life..now he is able to exercise again, lifting hand weights, riding a stationary bike, putting 6000 miles on it...lol.. so far, eats healthy, takes wheat grass and alfalfa tablets......and his Neurologist just shakes his hear at his progress......and NO there is no other product as good as this one.....very sincerely, Linda, daughter

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