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Dejibo 11-14-2010 08:47 AM

canadian patients are warning about CCSVI treatment after care issues
 
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories...stents-101113/

I had to load the page 3 times to get the video to work for me. keep trying.


Some patients who left Canada to get CCSVI angioplasty treatment in other countires are running into trouble after having stents placed.

Having a stent CAN place you at greater risk for blood clots and other issues, but they are not being warned of such thing by the treating clinic. They are treated and released, only to go home and find Canada is refusing to take care of those complications once they get home. Canada views what they did as against Canadian healthcare, and since they have no idea what happened to them away from Canada, they want nothing to do with trying to fix it now that they are home.

I found it interesting that even tho these women are suffering worse sx than before the liberation they all said they want to do it again, to try to reverse some of the issues they are left with.

Is that a common thing in canada? Can they refuse to help you if you went outside the country for a proceedure? how scary!

SallyC 11-14-2010 11:50 AM

That is scarry..:eek: I don't see how Canada can do that, if they are?? They may be trying to scare patients from doing the procedure?

wkikta 11-14-2010 12:31 PM

I believe that if you have had a procedure done of which they have no knowledge it would be reasonable to deny any coverage to fix what went wrong. All you can reasonably expect them to do is try and treat any general problems you may be having. One reason one reason medical procedures and treatments have to be approved for release to the general public, there can be significant problems with 'experimental procedures'.

Aarcyn 11-14-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 715837)
That is scarry..:eek: I don't see how Canada can do that, if they are?? They may be trying to scare patients from doing the procedure?

I thought the same thing, Sally. And how cold it is to just deny letting a patient see a vascular surgeon.

How sad not to use the opportunity of a stent crisis to learn rather than allow a human being to be further injured.

Where are all the interventional radiologists and vascular surgeons and why is there no coverage of their opinions?

Aarcyn 11-14-2010 01:09 PM

I wish I lived in Germany. This is what Canada and USA should be doing.

The video explains their research very well.

http://www.xcell-center.com/treatmen...FREPbAoddCnRIA

Dejibo 11-14-2010 04:44 PM

I guess several recent CCSIV liberated patients are having issues with soreness, swelling and clots after the proceedure. An MD answers some questions.


http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/...d=182832983940


when one patient asked her GP in Canada to please get to see a vasular person to get her questions and concerns looked at her MD told her NO! you have MS and MS is NOT a vascular disease, therefore the NHS isnt going to pay for you to go see an MD who specializes in vascular issues. so, her attempts at getting her swollen, tender areas looked at are falling on deaf ears. Eeek! how scary.

dmplaura 11-14-2010 05:36 PM

Thank goodness for CTV news telling it how it is and putting it out the the world, the good and the bad. Thanks for sharing again Dej (I know we discussed this a bit already). :)

Erin524 11-14-2010 08:54 PM

What if the vascular issues had nothing to do with the MS? Even if the patient had had the CCSVI surgery, they could have vascular issues not related to that. The Canadian health care will still keep them from going to see someone for those issues just because they had the CCSVI surgery?

Judy2 11-15-2010 02:00 AM

Remember in the thread about having the procedure, JM said that no one in Canada did it and she went to Bulgaria........so I assume the doctors don't know that much about it and don't want to open themselves for lawsuits, etc.????? Doesn't Canada have "Socialized Medicine"? HEALTHCARE Reform USA**-- better think that one over carefully!!!!! :)

Dejibo 11-15-2010 08:47 AM

according to my canadian friends if you have MS, its considered a NEURO disease, and this does NOT entitle you to see a vascular MD. IF you have a vascular issue, the Vascular MD WONT discuss your MS, only your vascular issues, and then will refer you back to your NEURO for any MS discussion.

If you go to your primary office and tell them up front "I have MS and a sore throat. I think I need to be seen." most times they tell you that dr. so and so WONT see you, please schedule time with your Neuro. Most neuros are very over booked and it takes months to get in to see one.

There are areas in Canada where a PCP is easy to find, but many areas have a shortage for regular MDs to see general patients, and they have a wait list to even become a patient in that practice, let alone get an appointment to be seen. I have heard of folks waiting years to get a primary MD 4 or 5 years! Then you find out that this MD is so overbooked, and over worked that they are quick to schedule you out to see the special MDs who have huge wait lists. If you dont like your MD...too bad! there isnt anyone to replace him.

I dont see why a vascular MD cant give his opinion to an MS patient about a vascular issue. Didnt they find BLOCKED or narrowed veins? Cant the MD see the scans the patient brought with them? Scary mary.


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