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dreambeliever128 04-08-2011 09:55 PM

How bad is your depression and how
 
do you know it's connected to the RSD?

I went to see my Dr. this afternoon and one of my Nurses said that I was dealing with Springtime depression. I ask my Dr. if that was the case how does he explain my Summer, Fall, and Winter depression.

As I told him today, I get so tired of everyone thinking I look good and that I am doing good. When they say that I just do a silent scream in my mind saying hell no, I'm not.

I can tell in what people write on here that they are depressed at times even though some think they aren't.

This is similar to asking about the difference between phantom pain and RSD pain. Is the depression from the RSD or is it just depression on it's own.

I pull myself up for a day or two and then I go right back down again.

I also put on a good front. I am always smiling around people and laughing not wanting to let them know how I really feel.

I will be 60 this year and as I told my Dr. there is no way I want to live to be much older if it's worse then what I am already living and have lived.

Do any of you have thoughts like this and wonder what life is all about?

We also talked about God and prayer today. I do believe in both but sometimes I feel like God is not listening at all to me and never has. Crazy or not?

Ada

rsdwife99 04-08-2011 10:16 PM

Ada,
My husband actually has RSD and has since 2004. He is very depressed. He works and then comes home and just lays down on the couch in immense pain. I am sorry you are feeling the way you are. I guess the reason that I wanted to reply was to tell you that you are not alone. My husband finally decided that he would get some counseling because he did not know where else to turn. If you want to reply to me I would love to chat. I am a pretty lonely wife of a man I love very much...however he has RSD and he is in pain all the time. Getting to know someone else with RSD might help me out. God Bless you!
Carole

birchlake 04-09-2011 06:42 AM

Ada,

You are not alone. Depression is so very, very common with many of us that suffer from CRPS.

Are you taking an anti-depressant? If not, consider it. It is also important to find a doctor that understands this and is willing to try some different meds and different "classes" of anti-depressants until you find one that works for you. There are BIG differences in how these drugs work. So far, I have tried 5 different anti-depressants before finding a combination of 2 that help (combinations of these drugs is also pretty common).

And as far as mindfulness, there are techniques and practices that can help. And religion can play a big part too. I use some of the "healing practices" listed in this University of MN website.

Good luck!

http://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/

Sonny1 04-09-2011 06:55 AM

Hi Ada,
1st I would like to say "no, you are not crazy" just depressed. It is natural to feel this way when you struggle with pain everyday. I would also like to say (in caring way) STOP putting on a front all of the time, that is why people "may think your fine". You need somebody to talk to. You are no where near alone in the depression department. I have had depression/anxiety for years HOWEVER since all of my hand surgeries & now CRPS my shrink states that "anybody in chronic physical pain will become depressed" I heard her mention the word "co morbid" or something like that. In my case, I had always been a functioning depressed person until all of the surgeries & chronic pain. Now the mental part of me is drained. Do I have better days? Sure, but nowhere near what my old better days were. I see a (i call her shrink in a loving way) every month, take medication's regularly and still have bad days.

PLEASE find a professional in your area that works with depression, primary care doc's are not the one stop shop when it comes to brain and minds. Specialists are where it is at, so please, do not deprive yourself of better days any longer!!

always here if you would like to pm me!!
Angela

ballerina 04-09-2011 06:57 AM

flipping frames helps ward of depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreambeliever128 (Post 760567)
do you know it's connected to the RSD?

I went to see my Dr. this afternoon and one of my Nurses said that I was dealing with Springtime depression. I ask my Dr. if that was the case how does he explain my Summer, Fall, and Winter depression.

As I told him today, I get so tired of everyone thinking I look good and that I am doing good. When they say that I just do a silent scream in my mind saying hell no, I'm not.


I will be 60 this year and as I told my Dr. there is no way I want to live to be much older if it's worse then what I am already living and have lived.

Do any of you have thoughts like this and wonder what life is all about?



Ada

Hi Ada,

I am so sorry that you are having such a rough time. What really helps me is flipping frames when I start to feel the quality of my life is not worth it. The first thing I consider is my 42 year old neighbor who is dying of cancer and has two children under the age of eight years old. She would gladly change places with me.

The next thing I do is to stop negative thoughts from winding up negative feelings. For instance, sometimes I feel anger and sadness because at age 57 I was teaching classical dance five days a week, could do thirty pirouettes in a row and not be the least bit dizzy, and could physically do what most 25 year old women could not do. Now at age 59 I am lucky to be able to walk a block, have falling attacks, limited range of motion, lack coordination, have memory and word finding problems, have severe cognitive problems and have pain 24/7. I immediately replace negative thoughts with positive thoughts. I list things I am grateful for. I find something to give me immediate pleasure, even something as small as gazing out at the spring daffodils in full bloom.

Instead of thinking how many more birthdays I will have to live like this I think of those who are much worse off than I am. I think about how my dying neighbor will be gone by next spring. Then I do something for someone else instead of focusing on me. Even though I can't sit at a sewing machine for more than 10 minutes I make stylish chemo caps for women with breast cancer.

Another strategy I use is to limit the amount of time I spend speaking about my pain and problems in a negative way and replacing that with action. For example, instead of ruminating about how I can't go out in public because I fear falling or someone bumping into me causing an extreme pain flare I decided to get a service dog. When the wait was at least three years and the cost was prohibitive I decided to train my own service dog with the help of a trainer.

Yesterday I found myself dissolving into tears and immediately yelled out "STOP". The tears stopped and I immediately turned the corner and put myself in a better place.

We really have no control over what is happening to our bodies with CRPS. The only thing we do have some control over is our reaction to it.

When someone comments that I am looking well I thank them because given this illness I could very easily not only look unwell but be in bed.

I would love to know what things make you feel grateful. It might give me a few more things to add to my list!

Hope this helps!!

Wishing you a positive day and manageable pain levels!

Teri

Sonny1 04-09-2011 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ballerina (Post 760670)
Hi Ada,

I am so sorry that you are having such a rough time. What really helps me is flipping frames when I start to feel the quality of my life is not worth it. The first thing I consider is my 42 year old neighbor who is dying of cancer and has two children under the age of eight years old. She would gladly change places with me.

The next thing I do is to stop negative thoughts from winding up negative feelings. For instance, sometimes I feel anger and sadness because at age 57 I was teaching classical dance five days a week, could do thirty pirouettes in a row and not be the least bit dizzy, and could physically do what most 25 year old women could not do. Now at age 59 I am lucky to be able to walk a block, have falling attacks, limited range of motion, lack coordination, have memory and word finding problems, have severe cognitive problems and have pain 24/7. I immediately replace negative thoughts with positive thoughts. I list things I am grateful for. I find something to give me immediate pleasure, even something as small as gazing out at the spring daffodils in full bloom.

Instead of thinking how many more birthdays I will have to live like this I think of those who are much worse off than I am. I think about how my dying neighbor will be gone by next spring. Then I do something for someone else instead of focusing on me. Even though I can't sit at a sewing machine for more than 10 minutes I make stylish chemo caps for women with breast cancer.

Another strategy I use is to limit the amount of time I spend speaking about my pain and problems in a negative way and replacing that with action. For example, instead of ruminating about how I can't go out in public because I fear falling or someone bumping into me causing an extreme pain flare I decided to get a service dog. When the wait was at least three years and the cost was prohibitive I decided to train my own service dog with the help of a trainer.

Yesterday I found myself dissolving into tears and immediately yelled out "STOP". The tears stopped and I immediately turned the corner and put myself in a better place.

We really have no control over what is happening to our bodies with CRPS. The only thing we do have some control over is our reaction to it.

When someone comments that I am looking well I thank them because given this illness I could very easily not only look unwell but be in bed.

I would love to know what things make you feel grateful. It might give me a few more things to add to my list!

Hope this helps!!

Wishing you a positive day and manageable pain levels!

Teri

Teri,

Thank you for putting things back into perspective for me! Your words have changed my day already~looking outside now enjoying the sunshine and the birds chirping!

dreambeliever128 04-09-2011 08:48 AM

Hi Teri,
 
I've got plenty to be grateful for. 2 grandson's, one graduated early in January and is living with me due to my daughter and her husband moving to far away for him to finish. My youngest grandson just got promoted from Sophmore to Junior and my May month is busy with 3 graduations, a wedding and a play and my sister coming up to visit. I have a lot of good friends, not lacking in that department at all. I hear from someone around here everyday.

I also have 3 good friends from Ky. here in Co. and we talk often so I'm not alone.

As far as councellors, been there, done that. I am not one for taking pills. Prozac and Zoloft made me more suicidal so I had to go off of them years ago tried others that I either couldn't take or did nothing for me.

My PCP is there for me day or night if I need to talk and he does listen, it's just that sometimes he needs to step back and think what to do for me next. We are waiting for my PT to end to see how that does for me. He doesn't want me to have to go through a hip replacement. When I go back in, he will have a new ideal. He has actually got me involved in volenteering at a Nursing home. He introduced me to one of my Ky friends and I help her some with her business when I'm bored. We talked for an hour yesterday but as I told him, in the past 2 months my health as gotten worse so that has brought my depression on more.

I think with my kids moving away which they are only about a 2 hour drive and my oldest graduating and getting ready to go off to college with his girlfriend, that is most likely adding to it. My youngest comes down on weekends to stay so I'm not missing out on seeing him. He is doing the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz in May so I will be up there for some time.

My life is full but my condition drives me nuts. My CFS is kicking my but due to warmer weather,

I have 6 brothers and sisters that live in Ky. but call me often. They get worried if they don't hear from me.

So you see my life IS full, my mind is depressed. LOL

Everyday is a challenge to keep myself going lately. My Nurse is having lunch with me here soon. I'm friends with all 4 of them so I have good care, but depression doesn't care what is going on in your life, good or bad, it's there when it wants to be.

Thanks for the help.
Ada

jouxson 04-09-2011 08:59 AM

i feel for you i suffer from depression, and alot of people just don't understand x

daniella 04-10-2011 10:17 AM

I am sorry for your sadness,pain and for everyone's on here. I had depression pre rsd and health problems as well as now. For me it has changed though in some ways so I can ses on some days where the physical is causing depression or is it just depression separate.
I remember my pain doctor saying that it is impossible for a person to be in pain for so long and it not impact you mentally. I really agree and why I do feel therapy or psychiatrist is helpful. For me it has not taken away the physical but helped to cope with it better. Though to be honest it is a battle cause I am not a positive person by nature like many on here.
You stated all the wonderful things you have in life but sometimes depression is not about an outside issue but an inner feeling. I can remember feel alone a lot and still do even in a group of people. It was my inner feelings that made me feel that way.
I too have been hit hard with new rsd pain and it is really impacting me mentally on every level. I guess for myself I am just trying to get through the days the best I can.
Dream do you journal? Do you think you may be willing to try some new meds? I have been on so many different anxiety,depression meds and sometimes it is just about finding the right one. What do you feel may help you now that is realistic of course?
Hang in there

lorigood243 04-10-2011 07:34 PM

Dear Ada

thank you for sharing your world with us. much of what you said i feel and have gone through. i use to think i wasnt depressed. but my body keep changing for the worse and maybe its becoming more than i can handle. i dont like the antidepressants either, i have been on and off them over the years. recently i had been taking st johns wort which was doing fine. not so good right now. i am mostly bed ridden and my hubby takes care of me 24/7. i dont have any answers, i just wanted you to know you arent alone, you arent crazy and this disease does go up and down with out emotions.
it doesnt make sense to me. i dont know what i am feeling sometimes.
i saw you mentioned having a hip operation, i dont know what your issues are, but having surgery with rsd was a nihtmare for me. when i had gallbladder sugery i didnt know i had rsd and i was in excruciating pain, my tissues felt like they were buring, i started to swell and havent stopped swelling. oh i also had another surgery to remove the swollen tissue which made life even more hell and i kept swelling more and now i have 80lbs of swelling on my abdomen. so please think of all your options before your hip surgery. i will never have surgery again unless its to save my life.
im sorry to tell you my bad experience, but i just thought you should know my experience before you go forward with yours.
hugs
Lori


Quote:

Originally Posted by dreambeliever128 (Post 760692)
I've got plenty to be grateful for. 2 grandson's, one graduated early in January and is living with me due to my daughter and her husband moving to far away for him to finish. My youngest grandson just got promoted from Sophmore to Junior and my May month is busy with 3 graduations, a wedding and a play and my sister coming up to visit. I have a lot of good friends, not lacking in that department at all. I hear from someone around here everyday.

I also have 3 good friends from Ky. here in Co. and we talk often so I'm not alone.

As far as councellors, been there, done that. I am not one for taking pills. Prozac and Zoloft made me more suicidal so I had to go off of them years ago tried others that I either couldn't take or did nothing for me.

My PCP is there for me day or night if I need to talk and he does listen, it's just that sometimes he needs to step back and think what to do for me next. We are waiting for my PT to end to see how that does for me. He doesn't want me to have to go through a hip replacement. When I go back in, he will have a new ideal. He has actually got me involved in volenteering at a Nursing home. He introduced me to one of my Ky friends and I help her some with her business when I'm bored. We talked for an hour yesterday but as I told him, in the past 2 months my health as gotten worse so that has brought my depression on more.

I think with my kids moving away which they are only about a 2 hour drive and my oldest graduating and getting ready to go off to college with his girlfriend, that is most likely adding to it. My youngest comes down on weekends to stay so I'm not missing out on seeing him. He is doing the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz in May so I will be up there for some time.

My life is full but my condition drives me nuts. My CFS is kicking my but due to warmer weather,

I have 6 brothers and sisters that live in Ky. but call me often. They get worried if they don't hear from me.

So you see my life IS full, my mind is depressed. LOL

Everyday is a challenge to keep myself going lately. My Nurse is having lunch with me here soon. I'm friends with all 4 of them so I have good care, but depression doesn't care what is going on in your life, good or bad, it's there when it wants to be.

Thanks for the help.
Ada



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