Scott Sonnon's Intu-flow Joint Mobility Program
 

Jomar posted one of these youtube videos a while back and I wondered if anyone else here has tried this or I'm being the pioneer here. I started doing the Sharon Butler stretching program last April and lately I've been doing more and more of this Intu-flow. I'm finding these two programs go together hand in hand. They are both about gently and gradually stretching the body to break up adhesions, or stuck together muscles. The cool thing about this program is it shows you how to gently stretch every joint in your entire body and it's different than anything I've ever tried or seen before. Here's the link if you want to listen to Scott Sonnon explain it.

Oops! I guess I don't have enough posts to post a video link. It will come up on youtube as Scott Sonnon's Intu-flow beginner part 1. Most of the beginner program is on there so if you want to try it won't cost you anything. I just bought the DVD myself because I really like it and I want to try to get my wife to start doing it to see if it will help her headaches and neck problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsMPqP7hxRk There. Needed more posts.

intu-flow
 

Coop42 or anyone who can answer this for me,
I have heard of sharon Butlers program but have never been able to get any real info on this, I am hyper-mobile anyway with winging of both scapula (trying to correct posture for long time)
Now intuflow how would one know if this is good for them as everyones situation is a little different?

I can not ask PCP DR as he has zero understanding of TOS and does not want to know very dismissive on subject. I need to find new pcp but in meantime am trying to find anything that I can do to help myself.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

andismom

here 's the info page on the TOS pgm by Sharon Butler.
I got her TOS pgm in 2004 and it really did help me a lot, especially while I was still working , and when I got released back to work again for a short time - until the work was just too much to handle and my RSI/TOS injury flared up-again.
No amount of PT or selfcare could offset the 10 hrs a day of the job.


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Also there are many video clips on You tube about posture and RSI, even TOS, you can carefully sample a few styles and see how you respond, just go easy on yourself -and with awareness of what your body can handle.
Easy baby steps are best, don't force or push through any discomfort, it often will cause a set back if you do too much.

another one with fairly passive stretches for whole body that I liked is Pete Egoscue -
he has books in library and here are some vids to see how they look-
http://www.google.com/search?q=Egosc...d55752a4aea6a6

Trial and error
 

Trial and error and many, many flareups and painful days. I wish I had a more encouraging answer than that but that's how I've been doing it just a whole lot of experimenting. A lot of the stretches I've been doing lately is stuff I've made up myself.

I just turned 49 last week and I've had TOS since I was 17 or 18 so it's been awhile now. I had surgery 20 years ago(scalenectomy) and that just made me worse. Last year I was lying in bed watching TV and I realized I just had to do something to try and improve myself. I was going stir crazy and needed a reason to get up in the morning. I pulled out the Sharon butler book that I had, read it cover to cover and it made lot of sense to me. I've stretched every single day since then but it's been no picnic. The first several months the pain was horrible and it took me eight months before I could straighten my right arm all the way out. Everything was that tight. I've learned to pace myself, on the good days I stretch more aggressively, and on the painful days I just do a lot of movement exercises. Circles with neck, shoulders, arms etc. just to keep the muscles moving and the blood circulating.

To be fair, I don't work so my muscles get plenty of rest after stretching. I don't think I could have kept this up if I was trying to work.

Circles
 

So with this intu-flow, once you start to get some basic movement in each joint then you start to do circles. When I first started I was so tight I really couldn't do this but with constant work and practice I'm getting better at it. They also call this circular strength training or CST. The way Scott Sonnon explains this, the circular movement of the joint allows synovial fluids to get in there to lubricate the joint. Also, the torque helps to gently breakup adhesions and decompress the joint. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being very uncomfortable you want to keep your pain level at a 4 or less as you do the movement. The idea is to gently shave away the tension day after day and gradually increase the flexibility.

Thanks
 

Thanks so much to both of you!

I am 2 years out after surgery RT rib and scalenectomy. No real improvement. Have RT upper arm swelling and sensitivity around elbow that drives me nuts then some days it just is totally numb.
I am no where near a TOS SPECIALIST just dealing with every day PCP
who is so complacent about everything. Only meds I am on is Neurotin 600mgs a day even I know this is not even a theraputic dose.

Dr says to me at last visit as he casually leaves the room Oh by the way I noticed you have winging of both scapula.

I replied would that cause the stabbing feeling I get sometimes when I reach for things of try to use my arms?

DR has no reply already down the hall to next patient in next exam
room.
HELP!

Andismom

Adhesions
 

Adhesions are something I don't really hear talked about much, on here, or even by doctors and therapists. I've never been to a therapist who had me do much more than general stretching or lying on some foam rollers to try and stretch the chest area out. I know many others have tried that stuff without much luck. The more I stretch and do this Intu-Flow I'm realizing that it takes movement to stretch out the joints and free up the adhesions. The movement also brings nutrition to the joints so they can heal.

If you think about it it makes a lot of sense. The joints are where the nerves tend to get impinged. I hear many people on here, including myself, that have wrist and elbow pain and I don't think that all of starts in the neck. I read somewhere that there's 10 or 12 places that the nerves can be impinged from the neck down to the hand. By doing a total joint mobility program like this I'm hoping that over time the nerves will get freed up in some of these areas.

A colleague of Sharon Butler's has a book out with similar type of movements for body stiffness, restrictions, adhesions.. I just placed a request for the book in my local library.

Some online info-
http://www.undulationexercise.com/
some vid clips- http://www.undulationexercise.com/exercises.htm
[Excerpted from
"Relieve Stiffness and Feel Young Again with Undulation"
By Anita Boser, LMP, CHP]

Thanks Jomar. I added the videos to my favorites. Some more things to try out. That hand and finger one feels pretty good.;)