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Jodylee 07-23-2011 08:23 AM

HUGE cat urine problem...help!
 
I have 5 cats. 4 out of the 5 have decided that my living room carpet is now the litter box. I am at my wits end. They do not have health problems like uti's or anything.

There was a dog that lived in this house before us that I suspect had accidents on the carpet so now my cats are marking their territory.

I have used every product imaginable to clean this. I haven't found a professional company that has good reviews regarding this issue.

It is disgusting. The smell...ARGH! We rent this house. My cats have never done anything like this before. It's so embarrassing. This is one time where I'm glad that I don't have people who visit me.

If you've read my other posts, you know what kind of stress I'm under anyway :mad:. We've talked about replacing the carpet but I'm afraid that the cats have become so accustomed to doing this that they will continue it and ruin more carpeting.

The house has an open floor plan and it would be very difficult to block them from this space. It would cost us a fortune to replace the carpet with tile or laminate because there is a set of two curved stairs that are about eight feet wide.

I guess this is more of a rant than anything else. I just do not know what to do! The husband just wants to get rid of the cats of course. Not really a viable option for me or my kids.

Kitty 07-23-2011 08:33 AM

I'm just joking...sort of...:o...but maybe the cats want hubby to leave and this is their strategy. :p ;) :D Okay, seriously you're probably going to have to confine them to one area of the house but I know that's virtually impossible.

Have a look at this recipe for a cleaner that is supposed to work......http://www.catsofaustralia.com/urinestainremoval.htm

If you try it let us know how it works! :)

Dejibo 07-23-2011 08:42 AM

Cats can mark out of their boxes for several reasons.

unclean box, smell of other animals in their space, urinary tract infections, but the big one is stress. Cats can become stressed so easily.

Here is what I reccomend that you start with.

Strip out the area and CLEAN it well with a urine remover cleaner. Amazon and so on has many great products.

#1 get a NEW box. Dont just clean the old one. Make sure you have at least 4 boxes in your home. ONE box for 5 cats is just too few. it sets them up for competition, and marking. Put them away from each other and out of the public areas such as the kitchen or the hall where folks can watch them urinate. They, like us want to be hidden from view when we tinkle.

#2 use an UNscented litter. Petco sells a good product that is scoopable, and easy to use and keep up to. Cheap too!

I use a product called Feliway. its a pheromone that is secreted by the momma cat to her babies and its very calming. So, if they are stressed about another animal smell, it will help them relax and not feel as if they need to protect or mark the area. It can take a few days to start working, but on really stressed animals it can work within minutes. They sell a plug in, like an air freshener. A spray that you can spray on the area that is affected by urine, or a collar that they can take with them everywhere, and stay calm, even out of sight of that spot.

http://www.amazon.com/Pack-Feliway-E...1427486&sr=1-9

Over crowding, into one litterbox or even 2 boxes with that many cats can be upsetting. Cats are very clean, and dont want to pee on top of someone elses pee.

Stress in the house can also cause behavior issues (i know you and hubby have been struggling lately) and the pheromone would be helpful there too.

Do you have a place for your cats to climb in the house? a tree house? a ledge? a high window? a shelf? top of a bookcase? Cats are tree dwellers and love to climb up high to relax and unwind. If they are forced to stay on the ground where the dog smell is, it may keep them stressed. Help them find a way to get up off the ground. Mine hang out on top of the kitchen cabinets, or on a tree house. Its a great place to go destress, and it only smells like them.

If you are leaving this house, dont bother replacing carpets and wasting money on a place you are not staying in. If you are going to give it another go, and decide to stick it out again, then it may be worth the investment to at least pull up the rug, even if you are just exposing the sub floor. At least it wont be full of dander, wee, and mold anymore.

I hope that helps. :hug:

Jodylee 07-23-2011 09:09 AM

Thanks Dej and Kelly. I have four litter boxes in the garage away from any activity in the house. They are all new and kept clean. I've spent enough money on feliway that I could've replaced the carpet :).

I've used anti icky poo which I've read great things about BUT I don't think I used enough. We are talking about just ripping up the carpet and living with the concrete underneath. Then just replace the carpet when the lease is up.

I can't take all of the cats when I leave because I'll be staying with my dad for a while and my kids will be staying with their father and don't want me to take away their furbabies. I have to get this done before I leave.

The problem with getting rid of urine is that once it dries under the carpet, it turns to crystals which are very hard to penetrate with liquid from the surface. Also the urine spreads underneath where you can't see it. I have read so much about pee that I feel like an expert ;).

I will try the litter you recommended Dej. Removing the carpet seems to be the best idea. I know my cats are stressed just like the rest of the family. Two of them are very old so it's doubly hard to retrain them (21 and 18 years).

4-eyes 07-23-2011 01:20 PM

Here's a cleaner that will work:

2 cups hydrogen peroxide
2 teaspoons baking soda
2 drops liquid dish soap

Mix ingredients (may need to make in larger quantities) and saturate the offending areas. Let sit 24 hours, blot remaining cleaner out of rug and allow it to dry slowly. Don't be surprised to get a "RUSH" of stench when you pour on the solution!

www.planeturine.com also has some good products.

As for the peeing itself--I suggest going straight to the "big guns." PROZAC! Your vet can prescribe it and it does work. I have a "pee boy" who reacts to stress in the home and prozac straightens it right away. Prozac is not very expensive as it's now in generic.

Good luck.

SallyC 07-23-2011 01:54 PM

Yeahhhhhh, Prozac. I've been on it for years and I hardly ever pee the floor, anymore..:D:p:D

Kitty 07-23-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 789143)
Yeahhhhhh, Prozac. I've been on it for years and I hardly ever pee the floor, anymore..:D:p:D


:Funny-Post:

kicker 07-23-2011 02:08 PM

I'm so proud of you Sally.

karilann 07-24-2011 11:55 AM

Oh NO!!!!
 
This has GOT to be very distressing for you! :hug:
I've always used NATURES MIRACLE and it has worked very well.
Yep, you may have to get new kitty boxes and several of them. Cats don't like stinky boxes and will stop using them if the box disagrees with them.

You may have to fix the problem and then hire a pro to clean the carpet.

Jodylee 07-25-2011 07:06 AM

I have decided that carpet needs to be ripped out. Yesterday I noticed that a piece of it in front of the sliding glass doors was lifting from the tack strip. I pulled it up. Disgusting! This carpet is old and filthy underneath! The padding has started to disintegrate. My landlord is a nice lady but I know she can't afford to replace it nor do I expect her to since my cats have done their dirty work on it.

At this point I would have to saturate the room in cleaner with no guarantee that it would even work. Now I have to make the dreaded call to the landlord to let her know that we're removing the carpet. She can be a bit hysterical about things. It's her personality :rolleyes:.

I'll let her know that we plan on replacing it when our lease is up. I wish I didn't have to tell her but it would violate the terms of our lease. More stress that I absolutely do not need. 'Sigh'


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