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boytos 09-01-2011 12:33 PM

Dextrose - just found something
 
http://www.caringmedical.com/proloth...lotherapy-work


A 5% dextrose solution injected at areas of chronic constriction injury not only relieves the inflammation but also relieves the chronic constriction injury. This typically takes 5 to 10 weekly sessions, but can be curative.

:confused:

If it's real, it's very good. Here some more infos : http://drreeves.com/Treatment-Variat...l-Prolotherapy

Seem to good to be true.

boytos 09-01-2011 12:40 PM

I must say, TOS is exactly what is described here. So what the **** is it ?

It is called "Prolotherapy " : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proloth...ngoing_studies

Fake or not ? I'm confused.

"If the TRPV1 receptors remain activated, there is persistent neurogenic inflammation and interruption of axonal flow. This in turn does not allow nerve growth factors and other neural ingredients for healing to reach the injured nerve. There is subsequent degeneration of tissues, as tissues do not heal. This may help explain why people who suffer whiplash injuries have such persistent pain. Blocking the TRPV1 receptor is the best way to block the release of substance P and CGRP, and the transmission of pain signals by the C fibers."

"The nerve is no longer swollen and easily crosses the small opening in the fascia. It regains its normal function, which is to maintain cell health. It is no longer a source of pain. This is the most exciting development in chronic pain management in over 50 years. That a simple dextrose in sterile water solution can relieve pain instantly and completely?"

And seriously, read this :

"Because unmyelinated C fibers are also found at the nerve root/ spinal level, and the nerve root can also suffer with compression injury, Dr. Howard Rosen and I experimented on injecting D5W into the spinal canal via caudal epidural approach to see if it would relieve low back pain. We found that it does in fact, produce relief of low back and leg pains instantly and completely! Amazingly, it also helps to relieve pain in patients with nonspecific low back pain and ones with peripheral polyneuropathy.

"Dr. Howard Rosen and I, along with Dr. Dean Reeves, are currently conducting a prospective multicentered study on Sweet Caudal epidural cases and seeing the long-term outcomes of this amazing discovery. "

http://prolohawaii.com/89-neural-pro...za-smigel.html

http://search.informit.com.au/docume...961;res=IELHEA

http://hapshack.com/images/av32207.png

What do you think about it, and why we have never heard of it ? True, false, exaggerated ?

mspennyloafer 09-01-2011 03:21 PM

ive heard of prolotherapy, it gets really mixed results. id consider trying it in my wrist but that's about it

boytos 09-01-2011 03:27 PM

Yes, i think it's mixed, i have found nothing on ncbi

chroma 09-01-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boytos (Post 801374)
What do you think about it, and why we have never heard of it ? True, false, exaggerated ?

I had read about it before, but as mspennyloafer says, the results have been mixed. Then again one might say the same for PT, surgery, etc.

Here are more links:

http://www.google.com/search?q=prolo...let%20syndrome

Has anyone here tried prolotherapy on TOS?

mspennyloafer 09-01-2011 07:45 PM

i also heard thast its VERY painful which is why id be hesitant to try it in certain areas.

boytos 09-02-2011 01:56 AM

The main problem is to locate the injury. I think termography must be done first.


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