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Apollo 09-04-2011 08:08 PM

Is weight gain when using Lyrica primarily due to Edema (water retention)?
 
I wonder if the weight gain reported when using higher doses of Lyrica is actually due to Edema, or water retention?

If that is the case, then perhaps the use of a water pill while using Lyrica would help prevent the weight gain.

Thoughts?

zorro1 09-04-2011 08:35 PM

I always thought that but dont think its that easy.

My neuro insists i stay off it due to weight gain but wants me on nuerontin instead. I always thought they were the same in regards to weight gain :confused:

norahs 09-04-2011 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorrro13 (Post 802430)
I always thought that but dont think its that easy.

My neuro insists i stay off it due to weight gain but wants me on nuerontin instead. I always thought they were the same in regards to weight gain :confused:

I have gained about 15-20 lbs since I first started taking Neurontin last November. I wish I could blame it on water retention but I think not. It has made me lose my sense of taste in a very big way and changed my appetite completely. I was a big meat eater and now can hardly stand it, I crave sweets which I never have in the past. It's all very weird and I would love to go off the stuff but know I can't take the pain. Catch 22........

teacherfeet 09-04-2011 11:52 PM

Lyrica
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollo (Post 802427)
I wonder if the weight gain reported when using higher doses of Lyrica is actually due to Edema, or water retention?

If that is the case, then perhaps the use of a water pill while using Lyrica would help prevent the weight gain.

Thoughts?

My doctor explained that Lyrica doesn't exactly cause weight gain, but food begins to look REAL good.

zorro1 09-05-2011 04:37 AM

I find eating food a distraction from pain.

mrsD 09-05-2011 06:50 AM

If you find that your legs and feet swell, and/or hands, early on using this drug...suspect edema.

If you find you are just heavier, and clothes don't fit anymore, then that would be more like weight gain.

It is possible to get both side effects.

Heavy carb consumption can lead to peripheral edema too.

glenntaj 09-05-2011 07:14 AM

Agreed--
 
--certainly, both gabapentin (Neurontin) and pregabalin (Lyrica) are associated with weight gain, and edema (water retention) if a well-documented side effect of both, but most of the anti-seizure drugs also seem to be associated with a carb-craving effect. People's appetite's seem to increase as if they are getting ready for a hibernation state--it's been speculated that the centralnervous system suppression of such drugs may be part of that mechanism.

In the end, you really have to be aware of this and watch what you eat. :D

JB63 09-05-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by teacherfeet (Post 802452)
My doctor explained that Lyrica doesn't exactly cause weight gain, but food begins to look REAL good.

Amen to that.:D

JB63 09-05-2011 08:53 AM

How Sweet It Is...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glenntaj (Post 802491)
--most of the anti-seizure drugs also seem to be associated with a carb-craving effect. In the end, you really have to be aware of this and watch what you eat. :D

:eek:Oh this explains the craving for French Cruellas and chocolate cream pie, which BTW I never had an interest in before. Uh-oh.

Dr. Smith 09-05-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teacherfeet (Post 802452)
My doctor explained that Lyrica doesn't exactly cause weight gain, but food begins to look REAL good.

It was the nurse who put it that way to me (while the neuro was in the room) and I believe the term "munchies" was involved.... :p

I confessed that I had had experience with "munchies" - "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...." (a.k.a the '70s.... :rolleyes: ) and believed I could handle that (and I believe I have, but haven't needed any gabapentin in months).

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorrro13 (Post 802484)
I find eating food a distraction from pain.

I also found that to be very true.

Some adrenal hormone deficiencies can also effect chronic pain & hunger. I've found in just a couple of weeks of starting on replacing those that my hunger is less out of control and I am losing weight again, albeit very slowly.

FWIW, I've also had edema in my feet, since PN started, but before using gabapentin. I have some furosemide (diuretic/water pill) that I take when they're really bad, but the edema has been less severe since taking the hormone and pantothenic acid. Being more active on my feet (but not overdoing) has also helped this.

norahs & JB63 - It may be no news that carbohydrates cause cravings for more carbohydrates - vicious circle. Being a carboholic myself, I am keenly aware. Since being on a high-protien/low-carb chronic pain diet, I not only stopped gaining weight, I actually lost 30 lbs., which I hadn't been able to do for many years. I sort of plateaued after that, but noticed that I was still hungry after eating, and sensed that may be part of the problem too (in addition to eating being a distraction from pain). Recently I came across mention of two hormones - ghrelin, the so-called hunger hormone, and its counterpart - leptin, the so-called satisfaction hormone. Just a couple of things to look into further.

Doc


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