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chroma 11-10-2011 04:05 AM

TMJ roll call
 
"Temporomandibular joint disorder (TMJD or TMD), or TMJ syndrome, is an umbrella term covering acute or chronic inflammation of the temporomandibular joint, which connects the mandible to the skull. The disorder and resultant dysfunction can result in significant pain and impairment."

Symptoms at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporo...joint_disorder

Anyone have this? Suspect you have it? Thoughts on its relation to TOS?

Both my vascular MD and my chiro think that some of my symptoms are not TOS and therefore I have TOS + something else. When I went searching for my other symptoms, TMJ kept coming up.

mspennyloafer 11-10-2011 09:58 AM

whiplash can cause this and i definitely gave myself whiplash which made it 1000000000000000000000x worse bc your scm is jammed

even right now i feel this weird nervy sensation in my jaw and ear, its not muscle, but it feels off

mspennyloafer 11-10-2011 09:59 AM

i think overactivation of the scm in any situation (tos etc) will cause tmj but that's just mho

Anne4tos 11-10-2011 11:18 AM

I have many symptoms of TMJ, but in most people's opinion it is caused by TOS, not the other way around. Pulling of the neck and throat muscles have thrown my jaw out of whack. It's even effecting my bite now and the dentist is noticing wear and tear on some teeth that have not been there before.

I do a lot of manual internal releases in my mouth and jaw which helps the pain at times. There are also Feldenkrais TMJ audios that have been beneficial for me.

It's all part of the package :(.

SD38 11-10-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chroma (Post 823466)
"Temporomandibular joint disorder (TMJD or TMD), or TMJ syndrome, is an umbrella term covering acute or chronic inflammation of the temporomandibular joint, which connects the mandible to the skull. The disorder and resultant dysfunction can result in significant pain and impairment."

Symptoms at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporo...joint_disorder

Anyone have this? Suspect you have it? Thoughts on its relation to TOS?

Both my vascular MD and my chiro think that some of my symptoms are not TOS and therefore I have TOS + something else. When I went searching for my other symptoms, TMJ kept coming up.

That would be a big yes from me. I often have a deep boring pain under the jaw, and find it tightens up ALOT when I smile or laugh too much!
I have the perfect excuse to be a miserable git and not laugh at others crappy jokes at least.:rolleyes:

chroma 11-10-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anne4tos (Post 823543)
I have many symptoms of TMJ, but in most people's opinion it is caused by TOS, not the other way around. Pulling of the neck and throat muscles have thrown my jaw out of whack. It's even effecting my bite now and the dentist is noticing wear and tear on some teeth that have not been there before.

I do a lot of manual internal releases in my mouth and jaw which helps the pain at times. There are also Feldenkrais TMJ audios that have been beneficial for me.

It's all part of the package :(.

Thanks.

So what is the true source of the neck spasms for us then? Why do we have crazy scalenes and SCMs?

SD38 11-11-2011 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chroma (Post 823724)
Thanks.

So what is the true source of the neck spasms for us then? Why do we have crazy scalenes and SCMs?

Oh I wish I knew....... I'm trying as much as possible to relax myself and keep a check on tense muscles- you name it, meditation, music, relaxation cd, self massage, hot baths,muscle rubs,no heavy lifting, no smoking OR alcohol to prevent toxin build up: and I still struggle with muscle spasms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(
I hope my acupuncture session on Saturday is worthwhile because it ain't cheap!:rolleyes:
Best wishes guys xx:grouphug:

mspennyloafer 11-11-2011 08:38 AM

i dont think its possible to have tos (scalene kind not just pec minor or bc of cervical rib) without forward head posture.

fhd=increased likelyhood of tmj

also my experience is i never experienced a neck spasm in my life until i irritated my bp (despite giving myself whiplash and having no cervical curve) which i find interesting. so it goes both ways, muscle to nerve irritation nerve to muscle irritation

tshadow 11-11-2011 11:05 AM

HI
 
Le for tosers we all have a compensaable disease called terstosis or something like that as our meds make our mouth drive and our teeth hurt and fall out. Use special tooth paste, wash and make sure your primary doctor, if you are on work comp to help you

chroma 11-11-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mspennyloafer (Post 823817)
i dont think its possible to have tos (scalene kind not just pec minor or bc of cervical rib) without forward head posture.

fhd=increased likelyhood of tmj

also my experience is i never experienced a neck spasm in my life until i irritated my bp (despite giving myself whiplash and having no cervical curve) which i find interesting. so it goes both ways, muscle to nerve irritation nerve to muscle irritation

How did you irritate your brachial plexus? Where did you feel the irritation?


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