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Ravenred 12-02-2011 01:04 PM

Question re antibody test
 
If I understand my reading correctly, there shouldn't be any antibodies against the ACh receptors in a "normal" (i.e. non MG) person - right?

..... so why does my screen panel have 3 classes: negative, equivocal and positive with ranges for each: i.e. negative is .3nmol/L or less, equivocal is 3.1 to .49, and positive is .5 or better (I registered at .3)

Just curious if anyone knows....

Ravenred 12-02-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenred (Post 829372)
If I understand my reading correctly, there shouldn't be any antibodies against the ACh receptors in a "normal" (i.e. non MG) person - right?

..... so why does my screen panel have 3 classes: negative, equivocal and positive with ranges for each: i.e. negative is .3nmol/L or less, equivocal is 3.1 to .49, and positive is .5 or better (I registered at .3)

Just curious if anyone knows....

sorry that's .31 to .49

Kage12 12-02-2011 01:45 PM

I didn't have the equivocal value on my results, which equivocal would mean they were somehow questionable, so I don't know about that. Each lab has a different scale for the test range. I can tell you that I was "negative" at .4 and 2 months later tested postive at .7. The negative range was <= .4 & positive was .5 or >. I've often wondered why it's negative if you are showing ANY antibodies, ie the .4 or less range.

alice md 12-03-2011 07:31 AM

Every test has what is called a false positive (eg-you get positive results, even if you do not have the illness) and a false negative (eg-you get negative results, even if you do have the illness).

The limits of the test are chosen so that there is an optimal true positive and true negative rate. Those can be slightly different for each lab, based on the equipment and reagents that are being used.

Many times there is a also a gray zone, in which the chance of a true positive is too high to be ignored, yet too low to be conclusive. Some labs will just cut it into one of the categories, and others will report it as equivocal.

We all have a very low level of various antibodies (some which are auto-reactive) that mostly have no clinical significance. This is why there is a certain cut off that has to be used to differentiate between such a non-specific response and a true positive test.

Those are again different according to the specific test and the specific lab performing it.

In deciding if a test is truly positive (or truly negative) one has to incorporate the clinical picture with the results of the test.

Ravenred 12-07-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alice md (Post 829575)
Every test has what is called a false positive (eg-you get positive results, even if you do not have the illness) and a false negative (eg-you get negative results, even if you do have the illness).

The limits of the test are chosen so that there is an optimal true positive and true negative rate. Those can be slightly different for each lab, based on the equipment and reagents that are being used.

Many times there is a also a gray zone, in which the chance of a true positive is too high to be ignored, yet too low to be conclusive. Some labs will just cut it into one of the categories, and others will report it as equivocal.

We all have a very low level of various antibodies (some which are auto-reactive) that mostly have no clinical significance. This is why there is a certain cut off that has to be used to differentiate between such a non-specific response and a true positive test.

Those are again different according to the specific test and the specific lab performing it.

In deciding if a test is truly positive (or truly negative) one has to incorporate the clinical picture with the results of the test.




Thanks Anne - sort of why they call it "practicing" medicine - a learn as you go.....


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