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russ1956x 12-12-2011 11:19 AM

SSDI and SSI
 
I have a question about when you file for SSDI. Is that same application used and you automatically file for SSI also? I'm thinking if my SSDI is approved, but I don't have enough quarters, I would qualify for SSI. I'm hoping it is just one application when initially filing for SSDI.
Thanks.

Janke 12-12-2011 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by russ1956x (Post 831671)
I have a question about when you file for SSDI. Is that same application used and you automatically file for SSI also? I'm thinking if my SSDI is approved, but I don't have enough quarters, I would qualify for SSI. I'm hoping it is just one application when initially filing for SSDI.
Thanks.

No, it is not one application. You have to apply for both.

bdh1 12-13-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janke (Post 831818)
No, it is not one application. You have to apply for both.

I disagree, at least in Maryland, one application covers both, it did for me.

russ1956x 12-13-2011 06:19 PM

thanks Bdh1. I am in Arizona and found out when you apply for SSDI, you are also applying for SSI automatically.

Janke 12-13-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by russ1956x (Post 832086)
thanks Bdh1. I am in Arizona and found out when you apply for SSDI, you are also applying for SSI automatically.

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0200204001
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0200204002


Each program has a prescribed form or a different computer program that must be used to file a claim. For SSDI, the paper form SSA-16 isused or the MCS program. For SSI, the paper form SSA-8000 is used or the MSSICS program.

An SSI claim protects the filing date of an SSDI claim, but unless someone indicates an intent to file an SSI claim in their SSDI claim, the intent to file an SSI claim is not protected.

Filing for SSI is filing for public assistance. No one is forced to file for public assistance without making a decision to do so. A wealthy person who files for SSDI is not also filing for SSI without completing a prescribed application.

Each program is paid under a different section of the Social Security Act. Title II is SSDI and retirement benefits. Title XVI is Supplemental Security Income. SSDI was added as a modification to retirement Social Security, sometime in the 1950's. SSI became effective in 1974, when the federal government took over the state aid to the disabled and elderly.

You have to file for each separately. In every state in the US. But you can do it with one employee in many SSA offices. Other SSA offices separate the interviews.

Russ, the service rep at the 800# should be able to answer your question about whether or not you have an open SSI claim. Your attorney should know.

russ1956x 12-14-2011 12:12 AM

thanks Janke. Yes I do have both claims in. I confirmed that today. Even my last denial says: Claim for: Period of disability, disability insurance benefits, and supplemental security income. So I should be good to go If found disabled, but after my insured date of 12/31/2007. I would then be disabled under SSI and still be able to get benefits, although alot less. I definately qualify regarding finances and resources. I wouldn't get medicare either, but will still be able to get medical insurance thru the state. Also food stamps as ssi income does not count against food stamps in arizona. But am hoping for a favorable ssi decision before 12/31/2007. My alledged onset date is 6/1/2002.


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