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adelina 01-27-2012 05:06 PM

What route does ulnar nerve take?
 
As most of you know my pain is in my arms, it is specifically the ulnar nerve. But I cannot trace it and want to know where to place the lidoderm patches i've got as samples from my gp. I've cut it down and placed one directly along the nerve on the outside bend of the elbow, following the "funny bone" groove. But I also get very sore on the back of my armpit/shoulder/arm area. Hard to describe area. I am wondering if I should put one here too?
Since this is ganglioneuritis do I put one on the c-spine? Thnaks any feedback would be appreciated!

mrsD 01-27-2012 05:09 PM

If your diagnosis is firm... ganglioneuritis... then placing on the elbow may not work.

This diagram is simple, but shows where the nerve roots exit the neck and go down the arm around the bottom of the elbow.

Some placement of Lidoderms is tricky. If you find relief at the elbow placement...then your diagnosis is maybe not accurate.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...9QEwBA&dur=507

Lidoderms don't work instantly... if you find the right spot to apply them, they typically start to work in 2 or 3 days.

adelina 01-27-2012 06:15 PM

I haven't found any noticable differance at all. Which is why Iam looking for suggestions - I am hoping I am doing it wrong and that someone can correct me :D. I have been placing one at the elbow and leave it on for 12 hrs, off for 12, etc. for about 4 days with no change.

mrsD 01-28-2012 06:11 AM

So if they do not work well at the elbow, place them at the neck location...as illustrated on the link I gave.

The ganglions are along the spine. If you have issues on R and L, place the lidoderm over the neck area, horizontally, to hit both R and L ganglions, along the lower neck area... the link shows about where they are. Lidoderms don't usually work on end type pain. They work better at the spinal level. In ganglioneuritis the pain is being generated at the spine, not lower down.

If they do not work along the cervical spine...I'd suspect Thoracic Outlet syndrome:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum24.html

This is generated in the brachial plexus either nerve compression and/or vascular blockages (clots or compressions) deep in the chest.

adelina 01-28-2012 01:03 PM

Thank you mrsD, I am going to try the placing the patches on my neck today. I let you know in a few how it goes.
I was checked by an orthapedic specialist early on in my condition about TOS and it was ruled out but I am going to read it anyway - there seem to be a lot of similarities. Thanks for the lead. I am starting another thread I could sure use your advise on if you have any about ketamine injections? or neural stimulators (I think thier called) - thanks for everything.


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