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FUTURE NEUROSURGEON 03-01-2012 11:23 AM

Does this mri show bipolar disorder?
 
hello fellows

i need help in understanding this MRI result

so here is the MRI for a 26 year old male

Technique :Routine pre and post contract sequences for the brain done
FINDINGS :
1-unremarkable cerebral cortex and white matter.
2-preserved gray-white matter differentiation
3-No focal brain parenchymal lesion or abnormal signal intensity could be demonstrated
4-unremarkable basal ganglia,thalami and the internal capsules
5-normal size of the ventricular system
6-central midline structures with no mass effect
7-unremarkable sella and parasellar regions
8-Intact cranio-cervical junction

IMPRESSION:

GROSSLY NORMAL MRI STUDY OF THE BRAIN

do they show any kind of symptoms of any disease?
kind regards

bizi 03-01-2012 12:35 PM

I hope you understand that we are not professionals here just lay people looking for support.
None of us have had mri's that I know of or can read them. There is not any diagnostic tool to diagnose bipolar using anatomy brain tests that I am aware of. A good psychiatrist can thoroughly review a patients history of moods and behaviors to diagnose bipolar. you can look at the DSM4 or 5 if it is out. there are certain criteria that the patient must exhibit before a diagnosis can be made.
again I am not an expert and hopefully others can post to you. I don't know if you can diagnose on an mri or not...my guess is not the case.
good luck in your work/studies.
bizi

BlueMajo 03-01-2012 02:27 PM

It is my understanding that you CANT detect a bipolar problem with an MRI....there are no anatomical, visual or electrophisiological changes in bipolar's brains....

Good luck !!!

FUTURE NEUROSURGEON 03-01-2012 03:37 PM

Thank you for your posts
but do you think that this MRI shows any problems overall?

Dmom3005 03-01-2012 05:55 PM

thanks for answering this.

I was wondering when I saw this.

So had to open to see.

I didn't think so either.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

Mari 03-01-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

1-unremarkable cerebral cortex and white matter.
2-preserved gray-white matter differentiation
3-No focal brain parenchymal lesion or abnormal signal intensity could be demonstrated
4-unremarkable basal ganglia,thalami and the internal capsules
5-normal size of the ventricular system
6-central midline structures with no mass effect
7-unremarkable sella and parasellar regions
8-Intact cranio-cervical junction
Quote:

IMPRESSION:

GROSSLY NORMAL MRI STUDY OF THE BRAIN
HI,

The words I bolded mean that everything is normal.
"Grossly" means what is immediately obvious.

This means that upon looking at the MRI, the reader saw nothing out of place.

Is there something you are concerned about?


M

mrsD 03-01-2012 06:36 PM

Just a suggestion:

Bipolar is a chemical/genetic problem. It is not an organic
defect that shows up in MRIs as a rule, unless there is something else, like a brain injury present.

However, there are MRI studies like this one:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10331102

That show some schizophrenias may show up in MRI studies.
As far as I know, this is still being studied and not a given
finding in all patients with schizophrenia.

Please don't confuse Bipolar with schizophrenia.

Brokenfriend 03-02-2012 12:25 AM

In the OCD part of my illness,they have found out various things with the MRI.
This is complicated,and I don't know how to explain it. Here are what a few studies have said....

There are MRI studies that have been done with various mental health issues. Using a MRI in a study,obsessive compulsive disorder sufferers had less gray matter in the areas of their brain associated with suppressing responses.
Those researchers concluded they had found substantial evidence that a variation in "motor inhibitory control" is correlated with grey matter density changes in parts of the brain.

According to another study with people with OCD,lesions found in the basil ganglia could account for their OCD behaviors if the pathway is dysregulated.

This is complicated,and I don't have the scholastic ability to explain this. The only thing that I can say is that people with OCD have problems in the back area of the brain,called the Basal Ganglia. Lesions,and grey matter density changes in parts of the brain have been seen through these tests.

Please forgive me for the information overload on OCD. I think that more of us in the Bipolar forum have a form of obsessive brain activity in relation to the other mental health issues that we suffer. BF:hug::hug::grouphug::hug::hug:

Mari 03-02-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 857199)
Using a MRI in a study,obsessive compulsive disorder sufferers had less gray matter in the areas of their brain associated with suppressing responses.




Quote:

I think that more of us in the Bipolar forum have a form of obsessive brain activity in relation to the other mental health issues that we suffer. BF:hug::hug::grouphug::hug::hug:
Dear Friend,
Thank you. This is helpful.

M

FUTURE NEUROSURGEON 03-02-2012 03:18 PM

Mari

REALLY REALLY REALLY thank you i was really worried that these results arent normal
well it is an MRI of my uncle, my family members suspected shizophrenia and bipolar disorder..i am really THANKFUL that these results are normal
thank you from the bottom of my heart

mrsD , thanks now i know the difference


broken friend
Thanks alot :)


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