New and promising study about LLL
 

Low-level laser therapy alleviates neuropathic pain and promotes function recovery in rats with chronic constriction injury-possible involvements in hypoxia-inducible factor 1α (HIF-1α).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22351621

LLL - Low level laser therapy directly to the nerve's lesion has good result.

In conclusion, a low-level laser could modulate HIF-1α activity. Moreover, it may also be used as a novel and clinically applicable therapeutic approach for the improvement of tissue hypoxia/ischemia and inflammation in nerve entrapment neuropathy, as well as for the promotion of nerve regeneration. These findings might lead to a sufficient morphological and functional recovery of the peripheral nerve. J. Comp. Neurol., 2012. © 2012 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.

Anyone have tried like in the study ? :o

Apparently, the location is the key.

For cts : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17334675
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18754533
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19025407
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18754533

Been there done that, paid the bill. It will not fix your tos.

Ultrasound seemed more beneficial to me than LLL. Like tossucks stated, neither will fix your TOS.

Personally, the most effective for me has been ultrasound/tens combo therapy. So much so I purchased a unit to use at home. Unfortunately, I can't use ultrasound or LLL on my neck due to hardware from ACDF.

Well what did/would fix your tos?

Thats the million $$ question isnt it?
There is no Fix for tos, but sometimes surgical methoods are required to deal with it. My point behind the laser therapy...it can be used to help speed healing, treat scar tissue, but there is no physical way for it to make the space in the thoracic area any larger if that infact is what you are dealing with.

LLLT may help with some issues , if sx/pain due to muscular, myofascial pain, sticky tissues, or maybe even scar tissue is a factor.

I had some LLLT treatments from chiro, mainly for spot sx & pain - like elbow flare up, wrist, shoulder pain, Plantar Fasciitis/ Heel Spur/Heel Pain.
Was excellent for those spot treatments. Pain DID stop for me in those specific places.

I will buy one when /if the prices come down because it is so nice to only need a 30 second treatment per spot to stop the pain/discomfort.

And it isn't a stand alone therapy, you still need to do all the other body/posture/TRPs/ergonomics stuff. IMO


Probably won't make much difference if intense vascular or intense nerve involvement. As proven by expert doctors & testing, or where any anomalies are a factor. IMO:)

On the one hand, I see your point, but on the other hand, things are not always straightforward regarding the cause and effect relationships with TOS.

Today my TOS hand turned red (and the arm ached). I fixed it with stretches and shoving the rib down after which it looked like a normal hand. But what brought the rib up? What keeps bringing it up? Whatever solves that problem may well indeed be something like LLL which on the surface cannot create space in the thoracic area, but may stop the process that keeps reducing that space when the scalenes pull up the rib.

chronic constriction injury IS tos.

They areat least 4 levels, muscular, inflammatory, dysfunction neuronale and central perception of pain.

i paid extra for the class iv laser

didnt do crap

Fair enough but I agree with Jo*mar, its only one of many treatments needed, it is not a stand alone one. The nice thing about it is that it will not make your symptoms worse like physical manipulation can do. I have heard of it being used with good results for injury, ie a torn ligament to speed up the healing process, and prevent scar tissue. It def has its place in todays medicine, I just feel for us it is a methood of treating one of the symptoms, not the issue when it comes to tos.