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nospam 04-03-2012 03:56 PM

Thoracic Outlet Syndrome in Women vs Men
 
Dr. Wladislaw Ellis M.D. has some good information on his website - http://www.doctorellis.com/index.html

What particularly caught my eye was this excerpt:

Quote:

In my own series of over fifteen hundred patients with this disorder, there has been a 14:1 female-to-male ratio. In most other series, this ratio varies from 3:1 to 7:1. This disorder has a clear-cut and, as yet, unexplained predilection for women,which has been variously assumed to be due to work choice, poor posture, large breast size, and a penchant for complaining. None of these, in fact, are entirely convincing, although I should note that women with large breasts and TOS do report a moderate decrease in symptoms following breast reduction.
I've decided to ignore his statement of "a penchant for complaining" for the time being. :confused:

It seems the majority of forum posters are female I am curious as to what our numbers are here. If you wouldn't mind responding to the poll and add your opinions regarding TOS in women vs men.

nospam 04-03-2012 04:04 PM

Voting is public, which displays all users who voted, and what choice they voted for.

Jomar 04-03-2012 04:18 PM

There's an old post/thread around here somewhere, on a similar topic also.
I think part of the reason is just due to the generally more narrow shoulder area and generally smaller frame in women vs men.

I guess I could add for women that had a few children... most of us have carried the children & the accompanying paraphernalia around a much higher % than males usually do.
plus a purse :( I changed to a convertible backpack style purse

In general :cool:- and not trying to start a argument about what men do vs what women do but- :cool::cool::cool:
If they work outside the home , they do that job and come home to more duties..
women often do a larger % of house work & cooking, cleaning, kid care

all added micro trauma's to any minor RSI and/or posture factors.

mspennyloafer 04-03-2012 06:09 PM

thats interesting you mention the narrow shoulder area jomar, makes sense

im sure im stereotyping here but i assume women have less muscle more hormonal imbalances and thus are more prone to hypermobility

not fair, i get tos with a cups. i feel cheated

Limoges 04-03-2012 06:32 PM

My TOS had nothing to do with gender, but rather was the result of a congenitally deformed first rib.

I would guess that men are not as good at speaking up about pain and are perhaps more stoic. I'm basing that on stereotypes and hate to make generalizations like that.

Sheri_TOS 04-03-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Limoges (Post 866383)
My TOS had nothing to do with gender, but rather was the result of a congenitally deformed first rib.

I would guess that men are not as good at speaking up about pain and are perhaps more stoic. I'm basing that on stereotypes and hate to make generalizations like that.


I agree with Limoges's first comment. My right side was due to a bony abnormality triggered by a car accident. Left side (unoperated) is due to a different bony abnormality and a different accident.

Women can have difficulty speaking up, too. I freeze around doctors unless I'm totally comfortable with them.

nospam 04-03-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 866349)
I guess I could add for women that had a few children... most of us have carried the children & the accompanying paraphernalia around a much higher % than males usually do.
plus a purse :( I changed to a convertible backpack style purse

I think my TOS has a lot to do with my job. In 2005 I started a job in which I traveled a lot (flying and driving). I had an over-the-shoulder laptop bag and a 50lb rolling case of demo equipment I took everywhere. I think over the shoulder bags and pulling rolling suitcases can't be good for us. I can imagine carrying kids & their stuff being stressful. Driving with my arms extended is also stressful so pushing a stroller I'm guessing would be too. My wife is ready for us to have a kid so I hope I can get healthy so I can be Mr. Mom!

Limoges 04-03-2012 11:43 PM

Sheri, maybe we're related! Of course both genders can have difficulties speaking up, that was probably a stupid generalization, sorry.

mspennyloafer 04-04-2012 10:05 AM

i definitely have trouble speaking. ive gotten panic attacks from going to doctors appointments

i think this comes from..back the first real doc i went to about my pain, i had a notecard listing my sx and he told me i was overanalyzing things and didn't address any of my questions, including numbness. it was an awful experience, i started crying on the way home.

mspennyloafer 04-04-2012 10:06 AM

too bad we cant have a subset of surgery with c-rib or without c-rib


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