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valerie1961 08-07-2012 02:45 PM

case closed
 
had my hearing, decision was made, then it went to underwriters. now ssa says my case is closed on aug 3rd 2012. does that sound like a denial?

ginnie 08-07-2012 04:04 PM

Hello Valerie
 
I am not really sure. Usually if you are denied, that is stated very clearly. Case closed also doesn't leave room to appeal. Even after a hearing in court, I believe you can appeal. Keep post to the main board. Many more people here are better in this issue than I am. I hope you are OK. ginnie

Mz Migraine 08-07-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valerie1961 (Post 904006)
now ssa says my case is closed on aug 3rd 2012. does that sound like a denial?

In writing? :confused: Asking because denials are never given over the phone. SSDI denials are always in writing and the word "denial" is in the letter.

ginnie 08-07-2012 08:17 PM

Re: Right Ms migraine
 
Yes you are right. The letter concerning the case is very clear. If it is denied, they do it in writing not over the phone. ginnie:hug:

valerie1961 08-07-2012 11:19 PM

i had gotten this information over the phone when i called the ssa for an update.

finz 08-08-2012 01:35 AM

"Case closed" sounds odd to me. Perhaps they meant to say "a decision HAS been made, you'll have to wait until you get your letter to see what it says though."

If it was a denial, there is still the appeals process. If it was an approval, you are still subject to re-evaluations in the coming years.

It seems to me that a case shouldn't be 'closed' until you are deceased.

Maybe one of the posters who work in the field will have a more helpful answer for you.

Best of luck with this Val !

Tired3030 08-08-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finz (Post 904148)
"Case closed" sounds odd to me. Perhaps they meant to say "a decision HAS been made, you'll have to wait until you get your letter to see what it says though."

If it was a denial, there is still the appeals process. If it was an approval, you are still subject to re-evaluations in the coming years.

It seems to me that a case shouldn't be 'closed' until you are deceased.

Maybe one of the posters who work in the field will have a more helpful answer for you.

Best of luck with this Val !

Case closed simply means all evidence has been submitted. My case was left open at my first hearing b/c the judge allowed time for me to submit missing records. Ur case is ready for a decision b/c all evidence is with the judge. It has nothing to do with an approval or denial.

finz 08-09-2012 12:02 AM

ahhh

Thanks Tired ! I hope that assuages Val's fear about that being 'denial' related.

Abbie 08-10-2012 02:32 PM

You will get a CASE CLOSED if you have exhausted all of your appeals and have run out work credits.

I did... That's the only reason I know this.......but I did get this in writing.

Sigh,
Abbie

ginnie 08-10-2012 02:39 PM

Hi Abbie, question
 
What does it mean to run out of work credits? I thought during the process you had to work a certain number of work credit hours in order to qualify for anything. For me this time thing was cut right down to the last six months of my work record, and I had to prove "two" of the final ones. I was a home artist, and sold work. Had to get the last bit of proof as claiming "time" for work at home is difficult. Went by how much I made at the end. I also thought all decisions were given in mail form, not by phone at all. I have alot to learn about getting benefits and the in's and outs, I am curious. ginnie

finz 08-10-2012 05:25 PM

Ginnie,

As you work at SGA, you accrue work credits. Those credits 'expire'.

Some of the more knowledgable posters can probably supply the details (like how long a credit is good for), but as an example.....

One could start working at age 16.....and work full time for 15 years. If they became disabled then, their SSDI would be based on SSA's formula for the years they worked (how many quarters/credits) and their salary.

If that person got married at 31, started having babies, and became at stay at home parent, then became disabled at age 51....they'd be up a creek with SSDI because they hadn't worked for 20 years, so their credits would have expired.

It sounds like your case may have gotten close to the deadline for your credits expiring.

Mz Migraine 08-10-2012 05:59 PM

Ginnie,


Check out this article.....


Are You “Insured” For Social Security Disability Benefits?


Hopefully, it will answer your questions about work credits expiring.

ginnie 08-10-2012 06:13 PM

Hi Finz, Ms Migrane
 
Yes I am beginning to understand this. There was real concern with my case. I took off time to be in a trial study. this was a long trial study, and I was an at home artisian. I was down to what ever conditions there were, with having to prove the past so many months of work. I did slide in. I personally don't think your work credits should expire. Sometimes in the middle of a career, you do have to stop. That is what I did. I made money and put in but it was close. Why is it set up like this? I was unable to get health insurance because of the system to begin with. I get very little as I could not stay healthy. I am just glad I got the benefits and health care now. I wish others going through this process all the best. It is so hard! ginnie

Abbie 08-11-2012 05:34 PM

I was told you have to prove work by paying into Social Security 5 out of the past/previous 10 years prior to applying for Social Security.

I've been out of work for 8+years....so in order for me to re-apply for Social Security again, I have to find some type of employment and work for at least the next 3 to 5 years, most likely more. Right now my doctors tell me that I cannot work.

I took my case all the way to the Federal Appeals Court. That's where I got my case closed notice.

Sigh....
Abbie

ginnie 08-11-2012 06:24 PM

Hi Abbie
 
Yes, I get it now. Sorry that this happened to you. In that 5 past to 10 past years, I had 9 surgeries. Try working around that. It was tough, and I didn't quit till my neck actually didn't work anymore. Never worked harder for anything in life as I knew for two years.; the disability was coming. My neck hurt for a long time before I addressed the situation. There must be a better way to go for people who get sick, or injured. It is awful for those that don't qualify. Makes me so sad for you. ginnie

finz 08-13-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 904838)
Why is it set up like this?


Because it is set up like long term disability insurance for the masses. If you want to collect on any insurance policy, you have to have the issue the insurance is for WHILE you are insured for it.

If I stopped paying my car insurance now and get in an accident 5 years from now, the car insurance I have now won't cover me then.


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