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Sandwalker 08-22-2012 04:15 PM

Trying MyoVision Chiropractic treatment
 
I've been battling with PCS recovery since my concussion in March '11. It seems to be SLOWLY getting better with 2 steps forward and 1 step back.

My main symptoms have been dizziness, brain fog, and Atrial fibrillation. After a battery of tests, I've been given a clean slate by 2 neurologists and 2 cardiologists.

The doctors have no other solutions for me other than lower my stress, etc.. Easier said than done. I run my own business and have people that rely on me for answers on a daily basis, so that's hard to do. I've taken on exercise, eat healthy and try to do one task at a time.

I take the usual supplements suggested on here. Along with those, I also take nootropics, which I find helpful to ease dizziness and thinking.

I've tried Acupuncture, which gave limited results for a day or two. Neck massages seem to help, but also with limited results.

I just started seeing a Chiropractor this week that uses MyoVision. Which means no twist and pop, just an electronic woodpecker tool that's supposed to tap the spine back into place.

Xrays from the Chiropractor show my neck is pretty misaligned. When I asked if that could be causing my Atrial Fibrillation and dizziness, he said it definitely could be. He also said that I probably had this problem before my fall but that it pushed it over the edge.

The Chiropractor claims that after many sessions that my neck should become aligned and that should help the dizziness and heart palpitations a lot.

Does anyone have any positive or negative results with MyoVision Chiropractic treatment? Or a concussion that caused Atrial Fibrillation?

Any help or comments are appreciated!

Mark in Idaho 08-22-2012 07:27 PM

Myovision is what my chiropractor calls "Show and Sell." It is used to alarm the prospective patient that their spine is in serious condition. It has some application but is definitely not the cure-all that they claim it is. There are also temperature differential systems that show a difference in inflammation. The same company that sells Myovision also make and sell ThermoVision.

I have never heard of an 'electronic' woodpecker tool that taps the spine into place. There is a handheld device called an Activator that used small impacts that do two things. They start by causing a vibration that breaks the lock of the vertebra. The stimulation can also cause a muscle spasm to help pull the vertebra into place.

This is definitely better than the twist and pop but I would not rely on the Myovision as the diagnostic tool. It does not necessarily diagnose dysfunction better than other methods. It also takes the place of the chiro learning valid hands-on diagnostic and treatment skills. I doubt the skills of the chiros who need a machine to tell them the diagnosis. I have been examined and treated by 18 chiros over 3o some years. The best have skilled hands for diagnosing even if they use the Activator for adjustment.

Your chiro is making claims and promises that are beyond his skills set and training. Atrial fibrillation cured by chiro? Possible but definitely not as he claims.

Does this chiro tell you to ice your neck after an adjustment/treatment?

Sandwalker 08-23-2012 01:28 PM

Mark, thanks for your response.

I did research online beforehand on Chiropractors and MyoVision. I see in general a lot of Chiropractors like to tear each other down in forums, so it's hard for me to take the word of any Chiropractor about MyoVision. I take what any of them say with a grain of salt. That's why I was asking for results from patients that have tried it before.

This Chiropractor didn't try to sell me on MyoVision. He offers both manual and MyoVision and states that both work equally well. I chose MyoVision simply because it's less invasive and gentler than traditional Chiro treatments.

For the diagnosis itself, he did multiple X-rays and manual analysis. So I think he uses MyoVision more for treatment than analysis.

I read somewhere that a pinched nerve caused by spinal injuries in the cervical vertebrae can affect heart rate and cause heart palpitations. Both of which I've had problems with only after my concussion. There is some heart innervation coming out near T1 which involves parasympathetic nerves going to the heart. If I run across the link to this explanation I'll post it.

It's been frustrating being told by 2 Cardiologists my heart is fine and 2 Neurologists my brain is fine yet still have these symptoms. That's why I'm exploring other areas such as treating the spine to help my PCS and heart palpitations.

I'm going to give this a month or so to see if I see any improvement and go by that.

Mark in Idaho 08-23-2012 03:34 PM

Myovision is just a diagnostic procedure. The adjusting tool he uses is something different. Be wise and consider how you respond to his treatments.

Does he recommend icing your neck after an adjustment?

btw, I did not look at any reviews of Myovision. I read the web site of Myovision and Thermovision. There is a lot that can be learned by reading the promotional literature for a therapy system.

My chiro from the past has 40+ years experience with a large chiro office of 8 chiros using a variety of modalities. He also was a sought after speaker at chiro conferences. Out of 18 chiros who have treated me over 30+ years, I would only recommend 4 of them. The rest were more about generating fees than fixing problems. You need to try a lot of chiros to find the good ones. The rest are good at selling themselves. The best just do good work.

It would be interesting to know what his adjusting tool is called.

My favorite diagnostic technique is "Leg Check." Leg Check is an amazingly reliable diagnostic system. Leg check is a part of the Activator system and a few other special modalities.

I have been treated with Diversified, Palmer, Gonstead, Activator, Equalizer, NUCCA, Kiniesiology, and some other forms of chiro diagnostic and manipulation.

If the cardio's have said your heart is fine, have you considered that your heart palpitations could just be anxiety symptoms? This is very common with PCS. The adrenal system can be malfunctioning and over-stimulating your heart.

Jomar 08-23-2012 08:57 PM

This subluxation chart shows the spine levels that may affect parts of the body- you might need to make your page view larger to read it-

Looks like T2 & T3 issues may affect the heart/chest

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/pi...pictureid=5102

Sandwalker 08-30-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 908444)
This subluxation chart shows the spine levels that may affect parts of the body- you might need to make your page view larger to read it-

Looks like T2 & T3 issues may affect the heart/chest

Jo*mar - Thanks for posting this, maybe it will help other people that have heart palpitations from post concussion syndrom. The Chiropractor showed me that misalignment or trama to the T2 & T3 definitely could have caused the heart palpitations on a chart similar to the one you posted.

It's only been a little over a week with chiro treatment, but my palpitations have decreased along with the dizziness.

Mark - To answer your question, the tool the Chiropractor uses is a "Pro Adjuster". He clicks on each vertebrae first, which takes a reading. Then repeats with the "wood pecker" effect I mentioned before. Basically it taps the vertebrae into place using the readings it just took.

For more info on the Pro Adjuster: http://www.logan.edu/mm/files/LRC/Se...001-Dec-06.pdf

I misunderstood how the MyoVision was initially used. It's definitely just used as an additional analysis. That's on top of the Xrays etc that have corresponded with the MyoVision findings.

On top of using the MyoVision for analysis and the Pro Adjuster for treatment, they use physical therapy. So far that's included electro shock treatment to areas around the spine and the typical roller massage table seen at Chiropractor offices. Next will be posture exercises to help align the cervical vertebrae.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but so far I've seen minor improvement in just over a week.

Mark in Idaho 08-30-2012 06:05 PM

I checked out the ProAdjuster. It looks interesting and expensive. It relies on the chiro promoting 'chiropractic wellness' to maintain enough patient sessions to pay the bills. Be careful that he does not treat you too often or so often that your spine never stabilizes due to the constant adjustment. The Gonstead style treatment table/chair is odd.

The wellness model says that you can not be well unless you are treated on a routine basis regardless of the patient's symptoms or lack of symptoms. This over-emphasizes the value of chiropractic.

I gave a chiro who used the roller massage table a try. I found the roller table to have a negative value. I look at it as a gimmick rather that a valid therapy. The one size fits all mystifies me.

Don't forget to ice you chronic areas after each treatment.

Regarding the T2 and T3 areas effecting the chest. The heart is part of the autonomic nervous system and has some self-regulating ability. I had a problem where I could not increase my blood pressure for a week or so because of inflammation in my neck, especially my lower neck. Once the inflammation resolved, everything returned to normal. This inflammation is why I continually recommend icing. This helps decrease the inflammation.

Getting the vertebra into proper place is of little help if the inflammation is not reduced so the joint can become strengthened. Inflammation stretches the ligament and they need to become tight again to hold the joint in proper place.

Do you have any digestive problems? They would also be caused by nerve dysfunction in this same area. If you don't have digestive problems, your palpitations would more likely be caused by anxiety. The sympathetic/parasympathetic system balances the highs and lows of the heart as a system controlled by the 'fight or flight' adrenal system.

So, this is a complex system of inputs and balances. It is hard to point to any single cause.


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