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musicgirl757 11-23-2012 12:59 PM

low C02 levels and RSD?
 
Hey everyone,

I just had some rountine blood work and noticed that when the results came back, my C02 level was borderline low. I also looked back at previous blood tests and it has either been low and below normal or borderline low. Does anyone know if this correlates with RSD at all or does anyone else have this same problem? If so what do you do about it? I came across the information on the web and found it rather interesting. Sounds like it might be contributing to RSD.

"Since modern people breathe about twice more, they have less CO2 in the brains, but carbon dioxide is crucial for stability and normal work of nerves.
CO2 is also called a tranquillizer (or sedative) of nerve cells. Normal CO2 concentrations create conditions for the normal work of the nervous system. While hypocapnia (low CO2 level) is one of the most common breathing disorders in the sick and it naturally leading to anxiety. When considering the effects of carbon dioxide deficiency on the nerve cells, he stated, “Studies designed to determine the effects produced by hyperventilation on nerve and muscle have been consistent in their finding on increased irritability” (Brown, 1953). Muscles and nerve cells become abnormally sensitive or irritated.In 1965 the Journal of Physiology (another leading physiological magazine) published the article titled "Cortical CO2 tension and neuronal excitability". It was shown that CO2 has a strong calming effect on excessive excitability of brain areas responsibHence, instead of normal perception and stability, which is characterized by objective reflection and analysis of reality, the brain starts to generate its own “spontaneous and asynchronous” ideas, projects, explanations, and interpretations of real events. Moreover, an excited brain can create problems that, in reality, do not exist.
http://www.normalbreathing.com/CO2-s...p#.UK-2waXk60s

Any thoughts, opinions?

Kevscar 11-23-2012 10:56 PM

Interesting reading apartf rom 2 things the last paper was in 1988 why have there been no more, did they realise they were wrong,and when they said Moreover, an excited brain can create problems that, in reality, do not exist, our problems do exist

musicgirl757 11-24-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevscar (Post 934129)
Interesting reading apartf rom 2 things the last paper was in 1988 why have there been no more, did they realise they were wrong,and when they said Moreover, an excited brain can create problems that, in reality, do not exist, our problems do exist

I don't necessarily agree with everything in the article either and def. didn't agree with the last sentence either. Our problems def. exist! I hope I didn't offend you. I just thought I would share it because it was interesting. I even recently saw something about how there might be a correlation between mitochondrial disorders and low C02 levels. And some doctors believe that CRPS is a mitochondrial disorder and are researching that. I really think more research should be done so we can target the problem and find a cure. I am so sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Dubious 11-24-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by musicgirl757 (Post 934033)
Hey everyone,

I just had some rountine blood work and noticed that when the results came back, my C02 level was borderline low. I also looked back at previous blood tests and it has either been low and below normal or borderline low. Does anyone know if this correlates with RSD at all or does anyone else have this same problem? If so what do you do about it? I came across the information on the web and found it rather interesting. Sounds like it might be contributing to RSD.

"Since modern people breathe about twice more, they have less CO2 in the brains, but carbon dioxide is crucial for stability and normal work of nerves.
CO2 is also called a tranquillizer (or sedative) of nerve cells. Normal CO2 concentrations create conditions for the normal work of the nervous system. While hypocapnia (low CO2 level) is one of the most common breathing disorders in the sick and it naturally leading to anxiety. When considering the effects of carbon dioxide deficiency on the nerve cells, he stated, “Studies designed to determine the effects produced by hyperventilation on nerve and muscle have been consistent in their finding on increased irritability” (Brown, 1953). Muscles and nerve cells become abnormally sensitive or irritated.In 1965 the Journal of Physiology (another leading physiological magazine) published the article titled "Cortical CO2 tension and neuronal excitability". It was shown that CO2 has a strong calming effect on excessive excitability of brain areas responsibHence, instead of normal perception and stability, which is characterized by objective reflection and analysis of reality, the brain starts to generate its own “spontaneous and asynchronous” ideas, projects, explanations, and interpretations of real events. Moreover, an excited brain can create problems that, in reality, do not exist.
http://www.normalbreathing.com/CO2-s...p#.UK-2waXk60s

Any thoughts, opinions?

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Any thoughts, opinions?
Yeah, I do. I followed your links and hate to be a party pooper, but he has a Phd from Moscow University (?) in math and physics....not in medicine, he is not a pulmonologist or any type of sub-specialist in pulmonary disorders, not really anything in the medical field. While he allegedly and undoubtedly is a smart guy, he has no formal training in clinical diagnosis, differential diagnosis, radiological diagnosis...or in anything diagnosis. I'm not trying to bag on the guy but he really has no training in health care in any way???? So what is the warm and fuzzy here???

Kevscar 11-24-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by musicgirl757 (Post 934136)
I I hope I didn't offend you. !

Only persons of the medical profession offend me,
It made interesting reading but I wonder why there have been no further papers on it.

Dubious 11-24-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevscar (Post 934227)
Only persons of the medical profession offend me.

Wow.....that is profoundly instructive! Is that how NHS makes you all feel about your doc (that should be trying to help you) across the pond when you don't feel good? Hmmm....is that what we now have to look forward to as well...hating our docs?

Kevscar 11-25-2012 02:37 AM

I have so much trust in the NHS that I madea n advanced decision which bans them from giving me emergency treatment even in a life threatening situation or keeping me alive artificially


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