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Mari 01-04-2013 04:43 AM

National Sleep Day was Jan 3
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...#slide=1938683

Hi
In honor of National Sleep Day, Huffington Post linked to articles that discussed studies about sleep. Here is one


Sleep Deprivation Drives Up Anxiety, Study Shows
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1582321.html

Quote:

Not getting enough shuteye can amplify the brain's anticipatory reactions, upping overall anxiety levels, according to new research.

And the effect is particularly pronounced among people who are nervous to begin with.

"What this study highlights is the importance of sleep for healthy emotional functioning," said Andrea Goldstein, who did the research at the Sleep and Neuroimaging Laboratory at the University of California, Berkeley. "And people who are highly anxious may actually be more vulnerable."
When I do not get enough sleep I can get very agitated. Other things happen as well. I think that pdocs and mdocs I have dealt with have tried to help but I probably got more help from tdocs.

Mari

waves 01-04-2013 07:01 AM

National Sleep Day
 
Well I definitely honored it last night.

i even missed The Closer last night... and bones, although bones was a repeat. i slept a total of 9 hours. i was asleep by 8pm and up at 7am. i woke up about midnight though, took my meds and stayed awake for a couple hours. so total, 4 hrs + 5 hrs...

i have had migraines past two days, and they seem to make me real tired. also getting extra sleep seems to help them go away. after two days of it i am completely migraine free today, and have all the blinds up - not even light and sound sensitve.

i have noticed the agitation too.

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i read two separate studies in an "older" neurology text that reported similar findings:

one study was on cats - their brain dynamics are similar to humans in many regards. this study showed activation of the catecholamine system after sleep deprivation. behaviorally, the cats became hyperactive. (FYI the primary catecholamines are the neurotransmitters epinephrine (a.ka. adrenaline), norepinephrine (a.ka. noradrenaline), and dopamine.)

another was on rats - this study was more behaviorally based. sleep deprivation appeared to increase activity and in particular "food-seeking behavior" in rats.

i do not remember the book i'm afraid, not even its author. i had borrowed it from the library.

~ waves ~

butterfly11 01-04-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 944381)
And the effect is particularly pronounced among people who are nervous to begin with.

This is not good news for me :) :Heart:

butterfly11 01-04-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 944390)
Well I definitely honored it last night.


one study was on cats - their brain dynamics are similar to humans in many regards. this study showed activation of the catecholamine system after sleep deprivation. behaviorally, the cats became hyperactive.

I get hyperactive after sleep deprivation, too.

I am glad that you were able to get some sleep and that your migraines are better waves! :Heart:

Mari 01-04-2013 05:14 PM

energetic cats and active rats
 
Hi, Waves,

The idea of a cat becoming active due to the same reason I might cracks me up. Mice engaging in food seeking behavior is interesting too. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 944390)
this study showed activation of the catecholamine system after sleep deprivation. behaviorally, the cats became hyperactive. (FYI the primary catecholamines are the neurotransmitters epinephrine (a.ka. adrenaline), norepinephrine (a.ka. noradrenaline), and dopamine.)

I know that if I have to show up at work with two straight days of little sleep I have be very aware as I tend to be a little obnoxious and not entirely in control. I feel anxious and agitated and yet I have to try to hold myself back and try to avoid people above me especially. Extra Klonopin is bad on those days because I might actually fall asleep. Sometimes I miss the days when I was prescribed Xanax and Klonopin.


Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 944390)
another was on rats - this study was more behaviorally based. sleep deprivation appeared to increase activity and in particular "food-seeking behavior" in rats.

One time I told my pdoc that when I am tired and missing sleep I want to eat.
He just looked at me and said, "When I feel tired I go to bed." ---
HELLO. :eek:
Not helpful!

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Gah! It seems that on the one hand we have to listen to our bodies and on the other hand we have to ignore our bodies.
How are we supposed to know when to use the ignore button?? :confused: I really want to know.

I am glad that you got some sleep and migraine relief and got to appreciate the light from the windows.
M

Mari 01-04-2013 05:22 PM

nervous to start with
 
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Originally Posted by butterfly11 (Post 944528)
This is not good news for me :) :Heart:

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterfly11 (Post 944531)
I get hyperactive after sleep deprivation, too.


Dear Butterfly,

I guess we have to get better sleep so that we do not feed our nervousness. There are so many bits and pieces in our brains that are playing out and that determine our days.
It's weird and wonderful maybe.
I am glad that I can talk about this here because no one I know in RL wants to talk about my sleep or my feelings.

Mari

Brokenfriend 01-04-2013 06:19 PM

I could work longer,and harder when I was in the Supermarket business on one hour of sleep. The work was continuous work where I didn't pace myself. If I paced myself I would get sleepy.

I didn't mean to get one hour of sleep before work. It was that I couldn't sleep. I was bothered,and it takes a toll on you. At the job before that,I sometimes went to work with no sleep at all.

I told a fellow worker about that,and he said he wonders why. I believe that he was saying he noticed the same thing in his work,with little sleep. I could do this two days maximum. Then I start sleeping when I get home,and on my days off.
BF:hug::hug::hug:

DiMarie 01-04-2013 08:19 PM

Bad thyroid = sleeping at the drop of my head...just if it is an appropriate time :rolleyes:

butterfly11 01-04-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 944555)
Dear Butterfly,

I am glad that I can talk about this here because no one I know in RL wants to talk about my sleep or my feelings.

Mari

Same here. I know my husband and family care on some level, but they aren't interested in hearing me talk about it or try to figure it out.

Sleep deprivation makes my husband sleepy. I wish I could be so predictable!!! :Heart:

butterfly11 01-04-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 944566)
I could work longer,and harder when I was in the Supermarket business on one hour of sleep. The work was continuous work where I didn't pace myself. If I paced myself I would get sleepy.

I didn't mean to get one hour of sleep before work. It was that I couldn't sleep. I was bothered,and it takes a toll on you. At the job before that,I sometimes went to work with no sleep at all.

I could do this two days maximum. Then I start sleeping when I get home,and on my days off.
BF:hug::hug::hug:

BF - I could have written this post myself! (I just worked at a different type place). This is uncanny. It's like we're brain twins :) I feel like there are many here that I am brain twins with. :Heart:


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