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montos 01-16-2013 11:31 AM

Burning in cheek after root canal
 
I had a root canal started dec 24th due to severe pain that would only let up when I drank cold water. The pain was everywhere on my right side, I couldn't tell if was upper or lower and it hurt my cheek and ear too.

The procedure was quite painful and the dentist said the tooth had been dead for some time since it all black inside. She cleaned it up and sealed a cotton pellet with some formocresol on it.

10 days later I went to my regular dentist to finish the job. I had just completed 10 days of clindamycin and the pain had resolved after about 5 days.

My regular dentist prepped the tooth which was quite painful since I had no anesthetic. I could feel the files go past the apex several times, of so it seemed. He then inserted warm gutta-percha into each canal which hurt like heck for a second or 2. The xray showed a small puff beyond the apex which is what he looks for.

After the procedure the tooth was incredibly sore for about 4 days, as was my cheek. Ibuprofen helped. I was getting pain in my cheek and ear as well.

About 9 days after the procedure the pain was mostly gone but I had a slight burning sensation in my cheek. This burning has not gone away and it has been nearly 2 weeks. The sensation is quite distracting but mild almost like severely dry skin. It also comes and goes. I still get the occasional twinge from the tooth, especially as a eat.

Of course I read about trigeminal neuropathy and freaked out.

Does this sound normal? Does it found like something that might still go away?
With the exception of this morning it has been gone in the am and gets worse throughout the day.

montos 01-18-2013 10:06 PM

Can anyone shed some light on this? Bryanna maybe? I'm suffering here and very scared right now.

Thanks.

Vowel Lady 01-19-2013 07:38 AM

Try not to panic. I believe there are salivary glands in the cheeks and perhaps this was aggravated during your dental work. You can ask the dentist office if rinsing with salt water might be of help.

I have atypical trigeminal neuralgia occurring after some ........dental work.
With a new dentist I had a filing done and was scared. It hurt a little for about four days and then stopped

Consider getting a second opinion if the pain continues. If it lingers very long, then go to a neurologist and perhaps an ENT. I do hope it goes away soon. Some people take longer than others to heal.

I'm so sorry to read of your pain, sending healing thoughts.

montos 01-19-2013 01:09 PM

Thanks so much for the reply. THe burning has gotten worse and it moves from my cheek to my forehead to my chin to my lip. My doctor says it may be an injury to the trigeminal nerve and that it will likely heal.

I go see an endodontist next tuesday for an evaluation.

I've never read of trigeminal neuralgia healing. Have you ever heard of this? The only thing is my pain is very mild, just a low grade burning that shifts around very quickly. Eyebrow for 3 minutes then ok for 2 minute then cheek for 5 minutes then in front of ear for 5 minutes. Never in 2 places at once and never more severe that a sunburn or a slap type pain.

My understanding of ATN is that it is real pain that is unrelenting. I've dealt with some people with TN and my heart goes out to them.

Does my symptoms sound like anything you've heard of?

Vowel Lady 01-19-2013 03:42 PM

I'm sorry. Mine started off something like this, after having a super duper bad pain at the dentist office...I had moderate to severe pain that moved. And after one procedure, I would have weird pains in my teeth that ping ponged from tooth to tooth as well. It worsened and worsened, and now the pain is outrageous and constant. I haven't heard of anyone getting better, but everyone is different. Perhaps if you get any infection treated with antibiotics and dont have any further physical work done, things will come down. Fingers crossed. But you have to have an experienced dental professional figure this out.

I got much worse and everyone I have communicated with has worsened when it comes to nerve damage and ATN. I understand that some people enjoy remissions from time to time, but with ATN they are uncommon. Also, with ATN, treatment is difficult. I hope that this is not ATN! Not sure an endodontist can help, but probably worth a try. I would consider seeing an oral surgeon not affiliated with this dentist and definitely see a neurologist, especially since the dentist himself mentioned the trigeminal nerve. I hope and pray this is not ATN!!!! Contact the Facial Pain Assoc in Fla. if it is confirmed and get the support of family and friends. Consider seeing a therapist if at any point depression sets in. Wishing you well.

Bryanna 01-19-2013 05:29 PM

Hi montos.

I am going to reply in BOLD after each of your comments...

<<<I had a root canal started dec 24th due to severe pain that would only let up when I drank cold water. The pain was everywhere on my right side, I couldn't tell if was upper or lower and it hurt my cheek and ear too.>>

ALL OF THESE SYMPTOMS ARE INDICATIVE OF A LONG TERM INFECTED AND INFLAMED TOOTH. LONG TERM MEANS THE BACTERIA HAS GONE BEYOND THE TOOTH.


<<The procedure was quite painful and the dentist said the tooth had been dead for some time since it all black inside. She cleaned it up and sealed a cotton pellet with some formocresol on it.>>

IT WAS PAINFUL BECAUSE THE INFLAMMATION IS SEVERE AND IT IS NOT LIMITED TO JUST THE TOOTH. THE INFLAMMATION IS IN THE PERIODONTAL LIGAMENT THAT HOLDS THE TOOTH IN THE JAW... THE SURROUNDING NERVES IN THE JAW... THE LIGAMENTS AND MUSCULATURE AREA THAT ENCOMPASSES NOT ONLY THIS TOOTH BUT THE ENTIRE UPPER AND LOWER JAW ON THAT SIDE. THIS IS A BAD INFECTION.

******FORMOCRESOL IS A FORM OF FORMALDEHYDE. IT IS USED IN EMBALMING FLUID. IT IS A LETHAL TOXIN TO HUMAN BEINGS. GOOGLE FORMOCRESOL TOXICITY AND READ ABOUT IT. DENTISTS WHO STILL USE THIS STUFF SHOULD HAVE THEIR LICENSES TAKEN AWAY PERMANENTLY. THIS IS THE WORST THING SHE COULD HAVE PUT IN YOUR TOOTH. THE TOXINS LEACH OUT OF THE TOOTH INTO YOUR TISSUE, YOUR BLOODSTREAM, YOUR BRAIN..... ETC. THERE IS NO WAY TO REMOVE THE RESIDUE FROM THIS TOXIN FROM YOUR TOOTH. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU HAVE THE TOOTH REMOVED ASAP.

<<10 days later I went to my regular dentist to finish the job. I had just completed 10 days of clindamycin and the pain had resolved after about 5 days.>>

THIS TOOTH SHOULD BE REMOVED. IT IS NOT HEALTHY AND THE TOXINS FROM THE FORMOCRESOL ARE CONTINUOUSLY LEACHING OUT OF THE TOOTH.

<<My regular dentist prepped the tooth which was quite painful since I had no anesthetic. I could feel the files go past the apex several times, of so it seemed. He then inserted warm gutta-percha into each canal which hurt like heck for a second or 2. The xray showed a small puff beyond the apex which is what he looks for.>>

THIS IS A NIGHTMARE. NOT ONLY IS THIS TOOTH HIGHLY TOXIC BUT THAT "PUFF" OF FILLING MATERIAL THAT WAS PUSHED THROUGH THE DISEASED APEX OF THE TOOTH NOW HAS EMBEDDED ITSELF IN THE JAWBONE. NO THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. THIS IS A DENTIST WHO DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SYSTEMIC AFTERMATH OF WHAT HE DOES.

<<After the procedure the tooth was incredibly sore for about 4 days, as was my cheek. Ibuprofen helped. I was getting pain in my cheek and ear as well.>>

OF COURSE YOU WERE. THE TOOTH IS SICK AND SO IS THE AREA AROUND IT.

<<About 9 days after the procedure the pain was mostly gone but I had a slight burning sensation in my cheek. This burning has not gone away and it has been nearly 2 weeks. The sensation is quite distracting but mild almost like severely dry skin. It also comes and goes. I still get the occasional twinge from the tooth, especially as a eat.>>

THIS COULD BE RELATED TO IRRITATED NERVES AND INFLAMMATION BUT IS MORE LIKELY PAIN FROM TOXICITY. THE TOOTH HURTS TO CHEW BECAUSE IT'S INFECTED AND THE AREA ABOVE IT IS TOO.

<<Of course I read about trigeminal neuropathy and freaked out.>>

GET THE TOOTH OUT BEFORE THE TOXINS SPREAD ANY FURTHER. MANY PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING WITH VARIOUS TYPES OF NEURALGIA DUE TO INFECTED ROOT CANALED TEETH. THE LONGER THE TOOTH IS PRESENT THE MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO HAVE PERMANENT PAIN.

<<Does this sound normal? Does it found like something that might still go away?>>

IT SOUNDS VERY "TYPICAL" FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD YOUR DENTAL PROBLEM. THE ISSUE IS...IN SPITE OF THE DIRECT CORRELATION, MANY DENTISTS DO NOT WANT TO ADMIT THIS IS RELATED TO THE TOOTH.

<<With the exception of this morning it has been gone in the am and gets worse throughout the day.>>

IT'S NOT REALLY GONE. THE SYMPTOMS SUBSIDE BECAUSE YOUR BODY IS AT REST. THAT IS MOST LIKELY SHORT LIVED. IT FEELS WORSE AS THE DAY GOES ON BECAUSE THE INFLAMMATION IS IRRITATED BY YOUR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, BY EATING, BY TEMPERATURE CHANGES... ETC.

Montos, I know what I have told you is scary. It is the truth and you are doing yourself an injustice if you keep this tooth. It is only a matter of time before the area swells up. In the meantime, your immune system is fighting the toxicities associated with the formocresol, the tooth is infected, the bone is infected and your experiencing systemic neurological pain from all of this. I have seen this thousands of times in my dental career.... before the neurological issues become permanent seriously consider removing this tooth. Go to an oral surgeon only to have it removed. Not your GP.

Be Well,
Bryanna

ginnie 01-19-2013 05:39 PM

Hi Montos
 
I just want you to know that what Bryanna said is very true. Please go see the specialist. Let NT know how you are doing. Sorry this happened to you, but truely the dentist didn't do right by you on many fronts. Don't wait if you can help it. ginnie:hug:

montos 01-19-2013 11:15 PM

Bryanna,

Thanks for the response. Yeah, if I had known she was going to use formocresol I would have bolted. My understanding is that they dip cotton in it and wring it out so it's just the vapours and not actually liquid like they still use on kid's teeth (which I can't believe!).

My regular dentist, who is a pretty decent guy, said he took extra care to irrigate the tooth before filing. (he personally does not use formocresol or amalgam and I never considered asking the first emergency dentist since she was quite young and I just assumed)

My question is that at this point if the formocresol or the calcium hydroxide or the gutta percha has injured the nerve would extraction make the situation worse?

I now have burning sensations that move from my cheek to my forehead to my jaw (the entire trigeminal distribution) and this scares the crap out of me. If I never see a dentist again it will be too soon. I just don't want to make things worse.

I go to an endodontist on tuesday. What do you suggest I ask them?

You have seen this before? Have you seen it go away?

Vowel Lady 01-19-2013 11:50 PM

In my case, I had the offending tooth removed and the area cleaned and biopsied. This made my pain worse. I thought i was doing the right thing, but the very next day my pain worsened and stayed that way. it sealed my fate. One of my neuros summizes it was nerve damage from the beginning (likely caused by the initial dental work) so this particular effort only made matters worse in my case.

Long story short: Sometimes I wonder if it was the graft that was put in after the tooth removal that was the final straw....but that period of time definitely heightened my pain and caused it to be 24/7.

Sadly, there are two schools of thought when it comes to root canals, but I know I personally would hesitate to get one again. One of my doctors puts it this way... He would hesitate to take any out, but absolutely would never put one in since we now know that they might be problematic.

I live in a large city and to the best of my knowledge only one or two dentists public ally adhere to the idea that root canals should be avoided, but then again, change is slow. It is still controversial. Just be careful and I think you probably would be best off in the hands of a highly respected oral surgeon...triple check his or her fpreferences with doctors and patients first. Definitely get a second or even third opinion Proceede with caution

Best wishes...this is a tough call.

ginnie 01-20-2013 08:31 AM

Hi montos
 
It wouldn't hurt to bring all these posts to your doctor. At least he will know you are researching the whole situation, and that you are very concerned about all your options. Doctors can assume you know nothing. go armed with information for the best outcome. Write down all your questions, and get the answers before you go ahead with any therapy to correct it. I wish you all the best and I will think of you on tuesday. ginnie

Bryanna 01-20-2013 05:45 PM

Montos,

Without any doubt whatsoever... do your own research... there is no way to rid the tooth of formocresol. Yes, the cotton pellet is dipped in the liquid and then gently tapped on a cotton gauze pad so it is not dripping wet. Ask yourself this... if the cotton pellet did not have a significant amount of formocresol left on it when she pakced it in your tooth... what would have been the purpose of using it in the first place?? Your "good guy" dentist did not want to speak ill of the emergency dentist. They cover each others back.

My background in dentistry to date is 35 yrs of four and six handed chair-side assisting, dental radiography and patient advocacy. I have not seen formocresol used in dentistry in over 15 yrs. Why? Because it is horrifically toxic to not only the patient, but to every one who breathes the vapors. Although it is still taught to dental students in some dental schools, so are mercury fillings. The dentists who concerned about the systemic affects of toxins like formocresol do not use it in their practices.

The formocresol literally leaches out of your tooth into your tissue, into your bloodstream, into your brain........ it knows no barrier. Can this make you ill? Yes.

You are wasting your time if you consult with an endodontist. They are the ones who advocate root canal therapy irrelevant of the systemic consequences. They do this for a living and a very lucrative living at that.

The longer the tooth is present... the more widespread and permanent the problem. In addition to this toxic issue, all root canaled teeth are infected because there is no access to the tiny canals which will continue to harbor infected nerve material. So ask yourself this...... am I comfortable living with a chronically infected, inflamed and toxic tooth that is only 4 inches from my brain?

Also, please be careful when bloggers on the net who have no educated background in dentistry give you their version of what is happening to you or what will happen to you. Please don't let anyone scare you from using your own intuition about what is best for you..... everyone is unique in that we all come away with a different response or different point of view to something that may or may not be similar. Unfortunately, people are horribly misinformed about dental treatment and without the proper knowledge their statements are sometimes a bit misconstrued.

Your best bet is to see an oral surgeon and explain your concerns about the formocresol. You are not looking for him to point blame or negligence in any direction... you just want to be informed about the systemic consequences of this being used. I have assisted on thousands of extractions of teeth and many in your condition .... I have no doubt that this tooth is black as coal and very sick.

I have no reason for posting anything here that is not factual. These are not my opinion, they are fact. Do your research on formocresol toxicity.

Let us know how you make out...
Bryanna




Quote:

Originally Posted by montos (Post 949104)
Bryanna,

Thanks for the response. Yeah, if I had known she was going to use formocresol I would have bolted. My understanding is that they dip cotton in it and wring it out so it's just the vapours and not actually liquid like they still use on kid's teeth (which I can't believe!).

My regular dentist, who is a pretty decent guy, said he took extra care to irrigate the tooth before filing. (he personally does not use formocresol or amalgam and I never considered asking the first emergency dentist since she was quite young and I just assumed)

My question is that at this point if the formocresol or the calcium hydroxide or the gutta percha has injured the nerve would extraction make the situation worse?

I now have burning sensations that move from my cheek to my forehead to my jaw (the entire trigeminal distribution) and this scares the crap out of me. If I never see a dentist again it will be too soon. I just don't want to make things worse.

I go to an endodontist on tuesday. What do you suggest I ask them?

You have seen this before? Have you seen it go away?


montos 01-20-2013 10:09 PM

Bryanna,

Thank you for your opinion. Yesterday the burning went down but now I am in terrible pain that moves from my upper tooth to my lower teeth to the front of my ear. It is almost as bad as when I first went for the root canal only nothing helps to take it away.

I'm just afraid that if this tooth is close to the nerve and this is the cause of all my problems then might not extraction make this worse?

How big a procedure is extracting a this molar? I've read it can cause a hole into the maxillary sinus that can be quite bad. I just don't want to replace one problem with a bigger one.
I don't care about the cost or the pain of the extraction, I just don't want this to get worse.

So you have seen people like me get better from this? Could this be a sinus infection perhaps?

God this sucks.

Bryanna 01-21-2013 12:30 AM

Montos.

The pain is coming from the infected tooth. Any pain that you experience after the removal will not be associated with the tooth. It will be from the infection that has irritated the sinus and the surrounding bone. The sooner you have this tooth removed, the more likely you are to heal without long term residual pain. In your case it is not wise to have a bone graft put in at the same time as the removal because there is too much inflammation. You can do that later on after the area has healed and the pain is completely gone.

To remove this tooth is not trading one problem for another. It is getting rid of the source of your problem, period, before it gets worse.

This may be a complicated extraction because the tooth is very brittle and infected. Oral surgeons deal with this exact issue every day. At this point the sinus may or may not be involved. If you wait, the sinus will definitely be involved because the infection will spread into that area. The extraction usually does not create a problem with the sinus unless the sinus is already involved.

Yes, most people recover completely after the root canaled tooth is removed and the site is surgically debrided. Most definitely. Sometimes there are some complications that need to be treated but these are due to the long term infection. SO the sooner you have it out, the less likely you will have long term problems.

I know this sucks really bad. I hear ya! I am so sorry you were offered the root canal in the first place. I see this nonsense every day.... makes me so sad to see people go through this. Please use your intuition... let your pain guide you in the best direction.

Keep us posted.....
Bryanna



Quote:

Originally Posted by montos (Post 949337)
Bryanna,

Thank you for your opinion. Yesterday the burning went down but now I am in terrible pain that moves from my upper tooth to my lower teeth to the front of my ear. It is almost as bad as when I first went for the root canal only nothing helps to take it away.

I'm just afraid that if this tooth is close to the nerve and this is the cause of all my problems then might not extraction make this worse?

How big a procedure is extracting a this molar? I've read it can cause a hole into the maxillary sinus that can be quite bad. I just don't want to replace one problem with a bigger one.
I don't care about the cost or the pain of the extraction, I just don't want this to get worse.

So you have seen people like me get better from this? Could this be a sinus infection perhaps?

God this sucks.


montos 01-21-2013 02:35 AM

So today was a lot of pain. I flossed my teeth tonight and I CAN SMELL THE FORMOCRESOL ON THE FLOSS. Oh crap. I need this tooth pulled now.

It has been 28 days since it was put in and syptoms have been getting slowly worse. Do you think it is too late to reverse this? I read about the sargenti paste people and how terrible that stuff is but you never hear if any recovered just the lawsuits of those who didn't.

Formaldehyde mummifies the tissues but there is no major nerves around that area are there? Can some healing take place I wonder? Oh wow. I need this done now.

Vowel Lady 01-21-2013 09:02 AM

I posted a link on this forum awhile back that said if you go to an endodontist, expect a root canal. Period. That is their training, that's what they know, that is what they are very likely to give you.

I think you should trust your instincts, do your research, get opinions from dentists, oral surgeons, etc. and move forward with some plan of action.

I hope and pray you are able to secure the opinion and services of a highly trained, intelligent and caring expert and get good/safe relief.
I just said a prayer for your wellbeing.

Bryanna 01-21-2013 12:24 PM

Montos,

BINGO..... the formocresol is present and always will be present in that tooth. It is irrelevant of the quantity, it is toxic no matter what. It is imperative to have that tooth removed and have the site surgically debrided very thoroughly as soon as possible. The longer you wait the more the toxin proliferates. You are fortunate that it's only been 28 days. People live with this situation for years because their dentist is ignorant to the systemic consequences and tells them it's not a problem. These people end up sick.... autoimmune diseases.... parkinsons.... cancer..... the list goes on and on.

I have been saying for years ...... most people have ONE thing in common and that is similar dental work on their teeth. People do not develop illness for no reason. Even if we are genetically pre disposed to an illness, we still have to be a host to get sick. Toxins play havoc on our immune system making us a host for illness.

Healing can only start to occur after the source of the problem is removed. The source is your infected, inflamed, toxic tooth. You will have to deal with the aftermath whatever it may be and you will heal. But the longer you wait, the worse the circumstances will be.

I am so sorry to give you this information. I am so sorry to be so blunt but these are the facts and you have the right to be informed of them.

Keep in touch here....
Bryanna




Quote:

Originally Posted by montos (Post 949381)
So today was a lot of pain. I flossed my teeth tonight and I CAN SMELL THE FORMOCRESOL ON THE FLOSS. Oh crap. I need this tooth pulled now.

It has been 28 days since it was put in and syptoms have been getting slowly worse. Do you think it is too late to reverse this? I read about the sargenti paste people and how terrible that stuff is but you never hear if any recovered just the lawsuits of those who didn't.

Formaldehyde mummifies the tissues but there is no major nerves around that area are there? Can some healing take place I wonder? Oh wow. I need this done now.


montos 01-23-2013 01:47 AM

So I went the the endodontist today to evaluate my root canal. He said radiographically it looked good and then I told him my concerns about formocresol. He was an older dentist so I didn't have high hopes.

He was shocked and actually called the other office in front of me to confirm it was indeed formocresol. He kept saying how concerned he was and did nothing to aliviate my fears. When I told him he was scaring me he said "I just want to tell you the facts".

He suggested I talk to a neurologist and/or ENT about this. I told him I was going to see an oral surgeon friday and he suggested I speak to him as well since he wasn't certain if removal of the tooth would be helpful.

Needless to say he scared the crap out of me. I called my general dentist and we talked for 45minutes about this. As I say he is a nice guy. He suggested I talk to the oral surgeon as well if for nothing else but documentation purposes in a worse case scenerio. He felt that this was a simple extraction and he could do it if I wanted. Because I have been getting worse everyday I opted to have the tooth removed tonight.

He scrpaed the area thoroughly afterwards and cleaned it then did an xray that saw 2 small pieces of material in the bone which he then removed.

I still see my oral surgeon on thursday for a consultation but I felt I needed this tooth out RIGHT NOW if it wasn't already too late.

So far so good afterwards, minimal pain (after 600mg of ibuprofen) and the bleeding seems to have stopped.

THe tooth smelled faintly of formocresol, the dentist agreed with me.

I know the feelings of some people here towards root canals so I imagine endodontists are not their favorite people but the guy today was knowledgable and I liked how he didn't try to hide or make excuses for the first dentist but rather was fairly open in his condemnation "formocresol hasn't been the standard of practice for half a century".

Next stop oral surgeon and the neurologist I guess. I'm really hoping that this a sensitivity issue and that now the vapours are gone the problem may get better, even a little would be nice.

I hope I did the right thing. I'm going to take pain meds round the clock till all pain (fairly minor anyway) is gone. I don't want any nerves firing off crazily sensitizing things if I can prevent it. :smileypray:

montos 01-23-2013 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vowel Lady (Post 949414)
I posted a link on this forum awhile back that said if you go to an endodontist, expect a root canal. Period. That is their training, that's what they know, that is what they are very likely to give you.

I think you should trust your instincts, do your research, get opinions from dentists, oral surgeons, etc. and move forward with some plan of action.

I hope and pray you are able to secure the opinion and services of a highly trained, intelligent and caring expert and get good/safe relief.
I just said a prayer for your wellbeing.

Thanks Vowel Lady, I said one for you too.

Monty

ginnie 01-23-2013 09:01 AM

Hi Monty
 
I am so glad you got another opinion and got that tooth removed. I didn't know much about formocresol until I looked it up. You did the right thing, just from what I read. I hope you heal quickly, and that there are no more problems for you. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers while you heal. ginnie

Vowel Lady 01-23-2013 09:19 AM

No lie...I have tears in my eyes. I've come to realize that I might be developing PTSD or something akin to it when it comes to dentists sand dental issues. My friend went to the dentist the other day and I felt sadness until she told me she was "ok." My husband is the same way and I wish I was exaggerating when I tell you, he refuses to even get his teeth cleaned. Even I tell him that is foolish, but he is actually worse than myself (if that is possible). I went to a professional Monday re: getting some help for my ATN and to my SHOCK AND HORROR she told me a relative of hers is in Dental School and HE is NOT optimistic about dentists!!! He is very bright as he came from another very difficult profession and has other advanced degrees first. She reported that he told her the other day that 99% of his classmates don't seem to understand the material and he is literally terrified of what is going to become of them when they actually get their degree and become dentists. All this was unsolicited. I told her my story (the super short/unemotional version) and she told me THAT and then added to be very careful when chosing a dentist. AMEN. That is the message that I try to say here. PLEASE! And so many of us are caught off guard with pain or have faith in the dentist because, after all, he or she went to "dental school." And getting second opinion is often difficult, time consuming and/or expensive. But it is vitally important. Wishing you continued good healing Montos.

ginnie 01-23-2013 09:25 AM

Hi vowel lady
 
I was terrified of the dentist up until a two years ago. I met a "real" person who just happens to be a dentist. I get the truth, compassion, and NO PAIN. It took most of my 61 years, to feel comfortable to the point I enjoy going to see her. I sure wish all of you, could find this kind of doctor, who elimanates fears that have grown over the years. Finances stopped me from going for a long time. She has never sent a bill to my home either. She allows me to pay when I can. Never quite met a professional like her. ginnie

Bryanna 01-23-2013 09:14 PM

Montos,

I am glad to hear that the endodontist did not discredit what I have been saying all along because I think some people here must think that I'm making this stuff up! But I am most glad that you had the tooth removed!! Very often it is the patient that directs the course of the consultation. It is important for the patient to speak up as you did and say.... hey, what's up with this, I am not happy! This demeanor often brings out the "honesty" in dentists.

If the dentist was able to debride the socket thoroughly after he removed the tooth, your chances of any residual issues from the formocresol is minimal if any. Simply because YOU DIDN'T WAIT to have it removed!

Hey... thanks for being so open to the information that I posted here :)

Let us know how you're doing in a day or two... :)

Bryanna


Quote:

Originally Posted by montos (Post 950053)
So I went the the endodontist today to evaluate my root canal. He said radiographically it looked good and then I told him my concerns about formocresol. He was an older dentist so I didn't have high hopes.

He was shocked and actually called the other office in front of me to confirm it was indeed formocresol. He kept saying how concerned he was and did nothing to aliviate my fears. When I told him he was scaring me he said "I just want to tell you the facts".

He suggested I talk to a neurologist and/or ENT about this. I told him I was going to see an oral surgeon friday and he suggested I speak to him as well since he wasn't certain if removal of the tooth would be helpful.

Needless to say he scared the crap out of me. I called my general dentist and we talked for 45minutes about this. As I say he is a nice guy. He suggested I talk to the oral surgeon as well if for nothing else but documentation purposes in a worse case scenerio. He felt that this was a simple extraction and he could do it if I wanted. Because I have been getting worse everyday I opted to have the tooth removed tonight.

He scrpaed the area thoroughly afterwards and cleaned it then did an xray that saw 2 small pieces of material in the bone which he then removed.

I still see my oral surgeon on thursday for a consultation but I felt I needed this tooth out RIGHT NOW if it wasn't already too late.

So far so good afterwards, minimal pain (after 600mg of ibuprofen) and the bleeding seems to have stopped.

THe tooth smelled faintly of formocresol, the dentist agreed with me.

I know the feelings of some people here towards root canals so I imagine endodontists are not their favorite people but the guy today was knowledgable and I liked how he didn't try to hide or make excuses for the first dentist but rather was fairly open in his condemnation "formocresol hasn't been the standard of practice for half a century".

Next stop oral surgeon and the neurologist I guess. I'm really hoping that this a sensitivity issue and that now the vapours are gone the problem may get better, even a little would be nice.

I hope I did the right thing. I'm going to take pain meds round the clock till all pain (fairly minor anyway) is gone. I don't want any nerves firing off crazily sensitizing things if I can prevent it. :smileypray:


aslam25m 06-17-2017 12:48 AM

Hello Mantos,

I just went through root canal of my upper left pre-molar and after four days I started feeling burning sensation in my cheek.

Pl respond me if your burning sensation has gone over the time and what you have done?? I am really desperate and so much worried, pl help me out.

Cleo 07-09-2017 11:13 PM

aslam25, I wonder how montos condition turned out to. You shouldn't compare yourself to someone with formecresol used unless you found out it was used on you.... How are you... Did you have the tooth extracted?

Hanna Oli 01-19-2020 01:40 PM

I have very similar issue right now. I had a root canal done 3.5 months ago on tooth #15, the toot hurt for about a week when I noticed I started to develop other syptoms. The gum around the toot that I had a root canal on started to burn. Over time the burning sensation spreded to my gums and my tongue, I went to see many oral surgents, dentists and no one can figure out what is causing the burning sensation. My gums look good, not swollen or red. Couple days ago I decided to extract the toot that the root canal been done on. Its been 6 days after the extraction and the burning sensation is still present but shifted towards the center of the mouth, the tongue and the gums in the center. The other problem is that the roots were overfilled with sealant during the root canal procedure and when I was extracting the tooth the oral surgent coulnt reach for that material to clean it out and said It is in the mixillary sinus and If I want to get it out of there I need a separate surgery for that. The materials that been used on RCT are Cavit(temporary filling) Gutta percha, and tubli seal (zinc, oxide, eugenol). I am going to see an allergist in 2 days to see if maybe I have an allergic reaction to tubli seal, since the material is still in sinus, my question is can I have all these symptoms due to an allergic reaction to any of the dental materrials, or there might be other underlying issue behind all of this. If any of you have any thoughts on this, I would greatly appreciate them all! Thanks

burninghead 01-31-2020 03:55 PM

I am experiencing the same thing along with tooth ache in the root canal teeth. Did you find an answer?

caroline2 02-01-2020 01:26 PM

You may want to "dab" drop(s) of either Oil of Oregano or Tea Tree Oil to that area. I use both these for daily dental health and add both these drops to my Coconut Oil Toothpaste. I have NOT had an root canal in eons but don't recall any issues when I did long time ago.

Another good healing oil is Myrrh tincture.

Hanna Oli 02-04-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by burninghead (Post 1283224)
I am experiencing the same thing along with tooth ache in the root canal teeth. Did you find an answer?


I still have the burning sensation all over my mouth. The roots on the toot that I had a RCT on were overfilled and when oral surgeon was extracting the tooth he couldnt get the material out of the sinus, since it needs to be a separate surgery. So, I will be having this surgery soon to remove the overfilled material. I hope and pray this is the cause of the burning sensation and pain and it will be gone after the surgery.

Bryanna 02-04-2020 07:07 PM

Are you going to extract the other root canaled tooth on the other side? That tooth has an overfill of rc material also. It's basically a mirror image of the one you had removed.

Bryanna

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Originally Posted by Hanna Oli (Post 1283303)
I still have the burning sensation all over my mouth. The roots on the toot that I had a RCT on were overfilled and when oral surgeon was extracting the tooth he couldnt get the material out of the sinus, since it needs to be a separate surgery. So, I will be having this surgery soon to remove the overfilled material. I hope and pray this is the cause of the burning sensation and pain and it will be gone after the surgery.


Hanna Oli 02-05-2020 03:53 PM

I've done a root canal procedure on that tooth for over 10 years ago, it never bothered me. So I am not sure what I should do about that tooth. But, in your practice, have you ever encountered patients with burning sensation from overfilled material? Can this material cause the burning sensation? Is there a possibility for the burning sensation to go away after the removal of this material? I am going to oral surgeon in a few days for a consultation about the surgery of removing the left material.

Bryanna 02-06-2020 09:58 PM

Hanna,

I answered this on your other post on the other thread.

Bryanna


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Originally Posted by Hanna Oli (Post 1283325)
I've done a root canal procedure on that tooth for over 10 years ago, it never bothered me. So I am not sure what I should do about that tooth. But, in your practice, have you ever encountered patients with burning sensation from overfilled material? Can this material cause the burning sensation? Is there a possibility for the burning sensation to go away after the removal of this material? I am going to oral surgeon in a few days for a consultation about the surgery of removing the left material.



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