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TommyB 02-21-2013 06:38 PM

What have I missed with my PCS recovery?
 
Hi All,

I am new to this forum. I skimmed through Neuro Talk a few times earlier in my PCS recovery, but often left scared and anxious, overloaded by stories of brain injuries that have severely affected so many vibrant people. I can handle these realities better now.

I am a 42 yr old husband, father of 3 children(3yrs, 7yrs & 9 yrs), friend of many and family member to a special few. My life has been drastically altered by a Sydney Crosby-like concussion (blindside blow to the left temple playing helmetless shinny - outdoor hockey with buddies) that happened 13 months ago. I am not back at work yet at my job as a high school teacher and coach.

My symptoms over the past year have included:
fogginess, dizziness, brain fatigue, photo sensitivity, audio sensitivity, ringing in the ears, head pressure, neck and shoulder stiffness, anxiety, depression, foul mood.

The first few months of my recovery were devoted to rest and a long battle with anxiety and low mood. I needed sleeping medication and could not nap for 8 months. Now I am calm enough to do so (thanks to medication and perhaps learning to take it easy - not easy for a energizer bunny like myself) and have a 2 hr nap every day.

Here are the actions I have taken to improve recovery:
* Consulted with a supportive GP often (continue today)
* Consulted with a "Concussion Specialist" / Sports Medicine Dr. - mainly tracked my condition and told me to calm down (discontinued)
* Went to Restorative Yoga 2 times per week (continue today)
* Psychologist that uses EMDR (continue today)
* Massage 1-2 times per week - back and neck (discontinued after many months - felt good, but didn't improve symptoms)
* Went to MyoWorx for 2 weeks in Guelph Ontario - cervical and back muscle stimulation, massage and daily stretching routine (discontinued after 3 months, but still do some stretches)
* Went to U of Buffalo to Concussion Clinic - treadmill test, vestibular testing, vestibular physio & workout program (discontinued after a few months, but still do as much exercise as brain allows)
* Vestibular Physio - not much help (discontinued, but might try again)
* Cervical Chiropractic (studied with Sidney Crosby's guy in Atlanta)- focusing on C1 and C2 vertebrae (discontinued due to lack of progress)
* Cranial Sacral (discontinued -no improvement but felt good)
* Brain Balancing by Brain State Technologies at Valentus Clinic in Victoria BC for 10 sessions - 1 week (interesting, but no major improvements)

New Actions:
MD/Naturopath/holistic healer - just beginning treatment
Chiropractic Neurologist who studied with Sidney Crosby's Dr. Ted Carrick - just beginning consultations

As you can see, looking for a treatment that will help me reduce my symptoms and make me more resiliant to setbacks has taken a lot of my time. Not to mention, slimmed my wallet.

I am resting well these days, but am in the middle of a major symptom flare up due to a big day at the nordic ski club with the kids 6 days ago(light skiing, dehydration, shoveling, playing active games).

Is there anything I have missed, or should try again in my PCS recovery? Any advice from the wise veterans on this forum would be welcome. :)

Anyone in the Ottawa, Ontario area who wants to talk and compare notes about local treatments?

rmschaver 02-21-2013 07:36 PM

Hows your diet? Are you avoiding proccessed foods? Do you drink alcohol, use sugar substitutes, caffiene or other neurotoxins? Has any of your doctors tried prescribing SSRI's? What about myofascial release? So far it appears you are seriously dedicated to get better but your efforts may be better if you can sort out your symptoms into there various triggers.

I know for me mental stress will result in tension in my back and neck. This results in back pain and some really nasty headaches. I also know that stressing over the emotional component of my injury clouds my judgement. So I leave the seriuos decision's to the respective proffesionals.

Back pain is the domain of my therapists and GP. Emotional advice is the therapists domain. Legal issues are the lawyers domain. By working very hard to surrond myself with top level proffesionals reduces both stress and effort on my part. I trust these people and follow their advice. No one can predict how long your recovery maybe. If you find that after a couple years you are still not progressing then you may want to start considering quality of life issues.

For myself a neuro-psych assesment went a long way to answering most of my questions. I have found this injury has been both a challenge. A deep and diffcult test of my physical, mental, intellectual and spiritual self.

Mark in Idaho 02-21-2013 07:45 PM

TommyB,

It sounds like you have been very busy DOING. have you tried simple quiet rest ?

Many of the therapies you mention are limited to specific injury profiles. The continuing EMDR may be over-stressing your visual processing. It is not designed for PCS. It is more for anxiety and psychiatric conditions, PTSD, etc. I would not submit to it myself. I have a history of seizures.

What is the longest period of moderated activity without therapy that you have gone ?

There are no proven treatments for PCS. it sounds like you have tried all the treatments designed to treat the co-morbid injuries. Has anybody told you to ice your upper neck ? Treatment without icing to reduce inflammation can be futile. When I have a flare up, icing my neck usually helps. The atlas/c-1 to occiput joint is very prone to inflammation. It needs to be treated with care.

Has anybody observed your breathing when you sleep ? atlas-occiput inflammation can effect breathing and heart rate/BP. Do you do anything to maintain straight neck position when sleeping ?

Most of the treatments for PCS are self-treatment. Maybe you need to focus on self-treatment/disciplines.

My best to you.

Mokey 02-21-2013 09:24 PM

It all sounds awful, and I completely understand. Similar situation....not able to teach yet but things slowly improving!
I think you may have missed vision assessment. Not just regular eye check up where they do each eye separately, but someone specialised who can assess how the brain processes vision. A neuro-opthamologist (the wait time in my Canadian city was over a year so I drove to Minneapolis) or a behavioural optometrist. There are some in the Ottawa area if the wait time for neuro-opth is too long.

Here is a link with a directory that may get you started:
http://www.covd.org/

I cannot emphasize enough how important the discovery of my visual deficits was to my slow recovery. getting prisms in my glasses at the one year mark has changed my life....I was able to use a computer for the first time in a year!!! I am now back to writing...slowly and not very well, perhaps, and many of the other symptoms are less intense.

Up to 50% of the brain activity relates to visionprocessing, so if the vision is screwed up, you will have no ability to function in other areas.

hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.
Hang in there. It slowly gets better, even though it is hard to believe.
(cross country skied for a few minutes last week....no hills, training grid, flat as a pancake, but I saw diamonds in the snow!)

"Starr" 02-21-2013 10:00 PM

I'm in Ottawa and have been going to the rehab center at the Ottawa Hospital, there's a brain injury clinic there... been seeing Dr. Shawn Marshall, physiatrist. If you google his name, you'll see it on lots of papers.

Don't have a lot of local suggestion for you otherwise, but you can feel free to pm me if you want.

Starr

TommyB 02-22-2013 09:52 AM

Good Info Mark
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 959296)
TommyB,
Thank you very much for your time, Mark. I notice that you are a support and a wise resource for a lot of people on this site.
It sounds like you have been very busy DOING. have you tried simple quiet rest ? Quiet rest was hard for the first few months with the anxiety interrupting my sleep and I was getting used to life at home with 3 young kids. Rest is much easier to obtain now, however I am pretty restless and like to move.

Many of the therapies you mention are limited to specific injury profiles. The continuing EMDR may be over-stressing your visual processing. I am It is not designed for PCS. It is more for anxiety and psychiatric conditions, PTSD, etc. I would not submit to it myself. I have a history of seizures. The EMDR is the type with vibrating hand held devices and is mainly for my anxiety and helping to process my thoughts and emotions. I guess being hit with PCS that won't go away is sort of like PTSD.

What is the longest period of moderated activity without therapy that you have gone ? Tough to say because often I have had massages or cervical chiropractic adjustments over the times of no therapy. Probably 3 months over last summer.

There are no proven treatments for PCS. it sounds like you have tried all the treatments designed to treat the co-morbid injuries. Has anybody told you to ice your upper neck ? No, never. Treatment without icing to reduce inflammation can be futile. When I have a flare up, icing my neck usually helps. The atlas/c-1 to occiput joint is very prone to inflammation. It needs to be treated with care. I'll try icing the neck, thanks.

Has anybody observed your breathing when you sleep ? No, atlas-occiput inflammation can effect breathing and heart rate/BP. Do you do anything to maintain straight neck position when sleeping ? I don't have any special pillows. I mainly sleep on my side.

Most of the treatments for PCS are self-treatment. Maybe you need to focus on self-treatment/disciplines. I would like a self-treatment routine (stretching, diet, icing, yoga, vestibular exercises that work) that I can implement daily. I need help designing one. I have seen all of these professionals, but of course not as a co-ordinated team. I don't have any guidance building a customized daily treatment plan.

My best to you.

Cheers Mark ; )

TommyB 02-22-2013 11:28 AM

Thanks for the tip Starr. I need one wise expert to co-ordinate my physical recovery. Perhaps Dr. MArshall at Ottawa Hospital could be the guy for me. Cheers.
TommyB ; )

TommyB 02-22-2013 11:43 AM

Much Thanks Mokey
 
I truly believe much of my symptoms are related to vision and vision processing (movement, light, patterns). The vision problems and other symptoms have been pretty good until this week's relapse. The brain seems overloaded again. Thank you for the tips. I get what Mark says about just getting into a routine and resting more. I still have this drive to try to figure out my injury and not miss something that could make a big difference. I am afraid of being like this forever or getting OK only to re-injure myself over and over again with little knocks and bumps like happens to some PCS folks. Cheers Mokey. Hope you can ski more this winter. TommyB ; )

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokey (Post 959325)
It all sounds awful, and I completely understand. Similar situation....not able to teach yet but things slowly improving!
I think you may have missed vision assessment. Not just regular eye check up where they do each eye separately, but someone specialised who can assess how the brain processes vision. A neuro-opthamologist (the wait time in my Canadian city was over a year so I drove to Minneapolis) or a behavioural optometrist. There are some in the Ottawa area if the wait time for neuro-opth is too long.

Here is a link with a directory that may get you started:


I cannot emphasize enough how important the discovery of my visual deficits was to my slow recovery. getting prisms in my glasses at the one year mark has changed my life....I was able to use a computer for the first time in a year!!! I am now back to writing...slowly and not very well, perhaps, and many of the other symptoms are less intense.

Up to 50% of the brain activity relates to visionprocessing, so if the vision is screwed up, you will have no ability to function in other areas.

hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.
Hang in there. It slowly gets better, even though it is hard to believe.
(cross country skied for a few minutes last week....no hills, training grid, flat as a pancake, but I saw diamonds in the snow!)


cyclecrash 02-22-2013 11:48 AM

I have found that while I was actively "trying" to get better by researching, going to doctors, going to massage, going to chiropractor, etc. I was not getting better and in fact was getting worse. Since I have stopped "trying" to get better and have just started relaxing and accepting that I will get better, it will just take time, I have been having much better days and noticing more improvements. It hasn't been easy, as we are pretty much all type A personalities here, but it's working.

Your brain wants to heal itself, you just have to let it and stop TRYING! Sounds like your wallet will thank you too!

Good luck!

CC

TommyB 02-22-2013 05:02 PM

Thanks CC,

I guess I just want to find out if I have missed anything obvious. I would hate for there to be a relatively simple treatment to fit into my routine that would help me that I didn't know about unless I did some research. I was doing very well with a simpler schedule and lots of rest until this latest setback. I guess my brain/neck (?) is still very fragile and I was surprised by the onslaught of PCS symptoms after a fun day of activity outside. I am a little more emotional too, because my plans are dashed again (recurring theme). I am going on holiday with my family soon and wanted to be in better shape for it. I was also in the process of getting back to work part-time and that won't happen now for a while. We carry on.
TommyB ; )


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