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Hopeless 07-21-2013 01:43 PM

Diabetes and fatigue
 
Does diabetes cause extreme fatigue? My A1C's run from 6.2 to 6.5 but as soon as I eat "anything", I feel like I have been drugged with sleeping medication. I will almost fall off my chair with an overwhelming need to sleep. My doc said "take a walk" after you eat. "You can't fall asleep while walking." Well, walking is NOT an option due to extreme nerve pain from an unrelated condition. I recently had out of town company and could not stay awake after lunch just to sit and visit. Should I be looking for other causes?
Thanks for any comments.

mrsD 07-21-2013 02:25 PM

Feeling sleepy is from the insulin rush.

You should take your blood sugars 1 hr after and 2 hrs after eating.
That may show you something.

A large meal or too many carbs are sleepy making. Protein is alerting as a rule as long as you don't eat too much.

Carbs tend to stimulate serotonin release. Protein less so.

Hopeless 07-21-2013 08:13 PM

Carbs not the culprit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1001650)
Feeling sleepy is from the insulin rush.

You should take your blood sugars 1 hr after and 2 hrs after eating.
That may show you something.

A large meal or too many carbs are sleepy making. Protein is alerting as a rule as long as you don't eat too much.

Carbs tend to stimulate serotonin release. Protein less so.

I am extremely compliant with my diet. If I eat a piece of boiled, boneless, skinless chicken for lunch, I have the same drugged feeling. I try not to have any more than 15g of carbs at any one time with any meal. I eat vegetables, brussel sprouts, broccoli, etc. as the major portion of my meal with either baked or boiled boneless, skinless, chicken for dinner. I am not sure if my fatigue is a result of my diabetes, my coronary artery diseasse, my medications, my depression (from my conditions), or a combination of them. I was just wondering if people without multiple conditions, just diabetes, have extreme fatigue and daytime sleepiness.

A lot of my medications require that they be taken with food so I take several at lunch and the rest after eating dinner. Since the meds and meals are simultaneous, I do not know if the meds are the culprit. I am on several types of anti-hypertensives and I do know that beta blockers can make you sleepy.

mrsD 07-22-2013 01:03 AM

It might be your medications.

Can you list them for me?

I take a beta blocker and have no problems with it.

I did however have a terrible reaction to Lisinopril. (which is an ACE inhibitor for blood pressure.) I had dizziness and huge fatigue from it, and also lupus, and angioedema swelling! Since changing to atenolol, I have no more problems.

Coreg however is a beta blocker that is very strong, and it can cause slow heart beat and lack of aerobic endurance in some people.

Some people react to blood pressure medications and report less stamina and strength to do tasks. This might indicate the need for a dosage adjustment.

If your sugars get high there will also be fatigue. This is because the cells are starving as the glucose is not getting into them and is remaining in the blood instead.

finz 07-23-2013 10:25 PM

Hi Hope,

I've only heard of extreme fatigue after eating in diabetics going with an elevated blood sugar. I understand that you aren't one for overeating and/or too many carbs, but have you been checking what you post prandial bs's are ?

I've had type II diabetes for a few years. I was totally noncompliant with my diet. Dumb, I know......and I knew the risks, so no lectures necessary for thinking I didn't know any better, but I do deserve those lectures for being a stubborn dummy ! My bs's were usually in the 110 (fasting) to 140/150 (after most meals), but I would have occasional readings of 170-180 and twice I had readings approx. 220 (all after really overindulging). 170 and up I would feel like I would fall asleep sitting/standing up unless I went to lay down asap.

In April 2012, I decided I needed to attempt to get healthier, which included working on my diet (although I still am not perfect and in total compliance with my meal plan, I do now watch what I'm eating 95% of the time) and I'm up to walking 2-5 miles almost every day. Between the weight loss, better eating plan, and exercise, I started having issues with frequent low bs's last fall and got rid of one of my diabetes meds. Now that my fbs's are 80-100 and post prandial bs's stay under 120, I don't feel like it's happy nappy time from those bs's over 170. I do still get that feeling sometimes, though, especially if I cheat with some ice cream, but sometimes when I have been good on my diet. The other day that happened and my bs was "only" 129. My diabetic nurse educator says that when my body was used to being 140 to 150 after most meals, that didn't register to my body as way to high, it felt normal, only those over 170 bs's felt "higher than normal (for me)" Nw that I'm in better control, and I am usually around 100-110 after a meal, 129 can feel too high to my body.

Even if your post prandial bs's aren't crazy high, maybe mild increases are affecting you. It's worth looking at.

Remember too that if you are dehydrated from the hot summer weather, your bs could be higher than normal even if you are eating within your diet plan.

Because the overwhelming fatigue is such a frequent issue for you, my guess is that it's a different problem than the diabetes, but who knows ? Doesn't hurt to get as much info as possible for when you talk to your doc about trying to figure it out. Good luck !

finz 07-23-2013 10:29 PM

Oh, and check out the first post in the next thread on this forum : http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread189651.html

Hopeless 07-24-2013 01:25 AM

Hi finz,

Seeing my endocrinologist in the morning. Cut my leg a little while ago and it took over an hour to stop the profuse bleeding. (Plavix and aspirin) Glad I know what to do for bleeding. Will reply tomorrow to your post.

Hope

Hopeless 07-24-2013 01:29 AM

Will write more tomorrow but my docs seem happy with my A1C's but I am not happy with them. They are OK, 6.2 to 6.5 most of the time but I have huge swings in BS levels. We change my meds but ...... well, that is for tomorrow as I have only a few hours to sleep before I head out to the doctor appointment.
Hope

Hopeless 07-27-2013 10:26 PM

I would be thrilled with those numbers, the ones when you were not in compliance. Every now and then even my FASTING blood sugar in the morning will be 157. Two of my docs are "happy" with my control because I keep my A1C's below 7.0

I am not happy because I have huge swings that average out to a fair A1C. I get very frustrated that no matter how hard I try to control my BS, it seems to have a mind of its own. There are times it appears there is no rhyme or reason to the resulting numbers.

Maybe I should start putting vinegar on everything I eat. (Smile)

Oh, to have something different for a change, I ate some sauerkraut one evening and had a resulting blood sugar of 306. Guess it did not have enough vinegar but sure tasted like it. That was all I ate. Just one small helping of warmed sauerkraut from a small glass jar.

Hopeless 08-11-2014 12:28 AM

It has been a year since I started this thread.

I am still not only having trouble with fatigue but it is getting much worse and so is my diabetes. My A1C's have been climbing higher and higher over the past year.

My fasting blood sugars are almost NEVER in the normal range any more. My post prandial readings are in the high 200's and stay there for 4-6 hours after eating just one piece of boiled chicken and a half cup of steamed broccoli.

When my meds finally seem to kick in many hours later, I will drop to 130 or near there. Some times I get low's in the 50's during the night.

If I have a reading in the 90's during the night, by the time morning rolls around, I will have a fasting blood sugar level between 130 and 160. All I did between the 90 and the fasting level was sleep.

My doc has changed my meds a few times but nothing seems to stop the spikes and roller coaster. I am very compliant with my diet but I do not exercise due to pain from PN, angina from CAD and the severe fatigue I have on a daily basis.

Has my pancreas quit on me? Seems I should not ever get "lows" if I am not still making insulin. I do not go low often, just a few times per month. In fact, I seldom get into the normal range at any time any more. If I do approach normal levels, that is when they continue falling and I wind up going low.

Any suggestions? I would love to have enough energy to do something, including exercise or something but all I seem to be able to do is lay down and sleep off the highs.

These levels are taking a toll on my eyesight already. I worry about all the other complications and damage to body organs.

Is there some way to stop the roller coaster? Is there a way to prevent the spikes without causing lows?


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