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Stacy2012 08-17-2013 06:26 PM

Danger of Alpha lipoic Acid
 
Mecury? I read this:


first off do NOT take alpha lipoic acid if you have mercury Amalgam fillings in your teeth. it will leach the mercury into your system.


Anyone heard of this??? scary.

Also have you ever heard of Dr. Schulze 's nerve tonic ?

It's all in this link:

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1339030

ginnie 08-17-2013 06:31 PM

Good grief Stacy
 
I will look into this. Thanks for the tip. I do take that vitamin and I do have those fillings. What next.....ginnie:hug:

Chemar 08-17-2013 07:46 PM

I was also warned not to use ALA with mercury amalgam fillings
mainly because it can cross the BBB so any mercury it chelates could enter CNS?

Dr. Smith 08-17-2013 11:25 PM

I don't know how these things get started. As always, consider the sources quoted. Most of what I see are fear-mongering posts to other message boards referencing yet other message boards, etc. with very little/no credible supporting documentation. I find no studies that back up the claim.

In a review of literature (which can also be found on PubMed) I find exactly the opposite:

Mercury Toxicity and Antioxidants:
Part I: Role of Glutathione and alpha-Lipoic
Acid in the Treatment of Mercury Toxicity

(See page 7/16 of the pdf)

They're using ALA to remove mercury from the brain (which is part of the CNS) and other organs.

Even in some of the questionable sites, when I read far enough, they are talking about amounts of ALA much higher than those we are using here.

Doc

mrsD 08-18-2013 02:23 AM

We have another discussion about this here.

Please use the search function to find it.

You can also try the PubMed link at the top
of the page. Use thiotic acid with the word mercury
There as well as lipoic acid, as thiotic acid is the
Alternate name often used in scientific papers.

Some lay sites are not reliable and paraphrase others
Sometimes incorrectly. Another good reference is
Linus Pauling institute at Oregon university.

I am on an iPhone and typing is difficult and I don't know
how to copy links yet.

If you search lipoic acid here you will find other discussions
about this topic.

Chemar 08-18-2013 06:09 AM

Respectfully, It was my highly respected PHYSICIANS who cautioned me not to use ALA

I was told it is a potent mercury chelator and yes, therefore can remove mercury, but because I had high mercury levels (tested) he advised I use chlorella instead because the ALA can cross the BBB and so in doing it's job of chelating mercury, could actually aid in carrying more in.
I was told that once the testing showed my levels sufficiently down, the ALA could be used to mop up any more but I decided not to use it.
Later testing showed the chlorella had done an excellent job!

My "source" was my physician, as well as my dentist, as well as another health professional, not a "fear mongering post to a message board"! I decided to follow *their professional advice*.

Last I checked, NeuroTalk was a place where everyone was free to express their opinion, and especially their personal experience.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Smith (Post 1007979)
I don't know how these things get started. As always, consider the sources quoted. Most of what I see are fear-mongering posts to other message boards referencing yet other message boards, etc. with very little/no credible supporting documentation. I find no studies that back up the claim.

In a review of literature (which can also be found on PubMed) I find exactly the opposite:

Mercury Toxicity and Antioxidants:
Part I: Role of Glutathione and alpha-Lipoic
Acid in the Treatment of Mercury Toxicity

(See page 7/16 of the pdf)

They're using ALA to remove mercury from the brain (which is part of the CNS) and other organs.

Even in some of the questionable sites, when I read far enough, they are talking about amounts of ALA much higher than those we are using here.

Doc


Stacy2012 08-18-2013 09:07 AM

I don't know who is right and who is wrong but I figure we all owe it to ourself to make informed decisions.

I have found there is a little truth to every side of the story with both sides making a whole picture.

And I don't disregard other peoples opinions based on where they are posting, real people are usually more honest than a group, or dr, or survery, or study.

In any case, I just thought I would share it, makes no diff to me which side of the fence you fall on as long as you take the time to be informed. :)

happy sunday

echoes long ago 08-18-2013 09:38 AM

considering the conflicting, uninformed, outdated, and simply erroneous information that many people with PN receive from doctors and other health professionals, there is a general healthy skepticism of professional advice not backed up by studies employing the scientific method.
As an example of medical professionals looking at the same disease and reaching vastly differing conclusions, look at the controversy amongst medical professionals for decades now relating to lyme disease, testing for, diagnosis, treatment, effects, etc. in the same vein,the entire field of supplements is highly controversial even in the face of emerging scientific fact.

mrsD 08-18-2013 10:05 AM

I think that Thorne link in Dr. Smith's
Post is quite interesting.

Everything in medicine is suspect IMO
Most of the time. I am reading a non fiction
Medical history book this vacation and
It is basically horrifying-- Drawing Blood.

Did you know the Mayo clinic was founded
by Dr. William Mayo who established
it to do spleen removals for a fraudulent
diagnosis--- splenic anemia.
The doctors there were called "murderers"
by their colleagues and this went on
For many years! Because most of the
Patients either died right after the surgery
or within 5 or less years thereafter.




This book really illustrates how medicine
evolved in the US in the early 1900's.

en bloc 08-18-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1008034)
I think that Thorne link in Dr. Smith's
Post is quite interesting.

Everything in medicine is suspect IMO
Most of the time. I am reading a non fiction
Medical history book this vacation and
It is basically horrifying-- Drawing Blood.

Did you know the Mayo clinic was founded
by Dr. William Mayo who established
it to do spleen removals for a fraudulent
diagnosis--- splenic anemia.
The doctors there were called "murderers"
by their colleagues and this went on
For many years! Because most of the
Patients either died right after the surgery
or within 5 or less years thereafter.




This book really illustrates how medicine
evolved in the US in the early 1900's.

I'd be interested in the book you're reading. Can you share the title/author?


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