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AZ-Di 01-09-2014 02:11 PM

New Drugs - anyone else?
 
I haven't put my own post on here for awhile, but have been keeping up with most of you. So maybe some of you can add an opinion.
I'm starting to feel like a human chemistry set.

Most of us know there is no medicine for CRPS/RSD & everything we get is "off label" & made for other diseases/conditions and may happen to work for us.

Mid November my P.M. Dr. rx'd 2 new drugs: Topamax (for migranes) for me to try. I took it for about 6 wks. It did not seem to have any effect, other than G/I issues so I stopped. I did not want to try 2 new drugs at the same time.

So, now I'm on day 6 of taking Namenda (for Alzheimer's). I guess she thinks there is some connection of how the drug works on the nerve reactions in the brain.

I'm still taking Cymbalta, low dose Lyrica, Baclofen and I still get Stellate Ganglion blocks about every 3 weeks. I've had 20-21 of those & I'm really tired of getting stabbed in the neck and being a zombie for the day.

I'm past a year mark with this. I hate to use the term "give up", but has anyone else just stopped with all the experimentation and found a way to
just settle for the disability and cope?

murgir 01-09-2014 04:21 PM

How bad are the blocks? Do they hurt? I will probably get one soon.

AZ-Di 01-09-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by murgir (Post 1042470)
How bad are the blocks? Do they hurt? I will probably get one soon.

Well, I'm given the option of sedation or not for the proceedure.
The very first one was attempted by a different Dr. than I have now.
He only used x-ray guidance and hit arteries & caused too much bleeding to
proceed. (1st & last time with that Dr.). That really scarred me!!

I found new P.M. Dr. who used x-ray & ultrasound guidance. I love her as my
Dr. and have stayed a patient. I always opt for conscious sedation (versed by IV).

It feels like a lot of pressure (hard to describe) and briefly a very uncomfortable feeling but not painful. The versed sort of relaxes me & I trust her now so it's o.k. You can't drive for the rest of the day & I always have a little spotty memory of the next 10-12 hrs.

Willow_Makk 01-10-2014 11:13 AM

I don't know that there is a way to cope if you just drop all meds and treatments. This disease just gets worse and worse the longer you have it. Every doctor I have seen tells me that the quicker it is diagnosed and treated the more the damage can be retarded.
I have had CRPS/RSD for 7 years and the best thing I have found is Ketamine infusions. They gave me back my normal pain free life. When I started them 2 yrs after DX, 40% of my body had CRPS and the pain had me bedridden and suicidal. I was on 100mg of MS Contin 2x a day, 40mg of Oxycontin up to 6x a day, a 75mcg Fentynol patch, Lyrica, Clonodine, Neurontin, and Topamax. After 6 months of infusions the pain was back down to the original site and I was able to come off all the meds (with the help of Suboxone). After another 2 infusions even the Suboxone was gone. I went back to work and life went on normally except for that 1 day a month.
Don't give up Hun. The place you end up is not pretty. I know feeling like a guinea pig is not fun but you can find what works for you so you can at least manage the pain.

Willow
May you walk in the eye of your Gods!

AZ-Di 01-10-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow_Makk (Post 1042616)
I don't know that there is a way to cope if you just drop all meds and treatments. This disease just gets worse and worse the longer you have it. Every doctor I have seen tells me that the quicker it is diagnosed and treated the more the damage can be retarded.
I have had CRPS/RSD for 7 years and the best thing I have found is Ketamine infusions. They gave me back my normal pain free life. When I started them 2 yrs after DX, 40% of my body had CRPS and the pain had me bedridden and suicidal. I was on 100mg of MS Contin 2x a day, 40mg of Oxycontin up to 6x a day, a 75mcg Fentynol patch, Lyrica, Clonodine, Neurontin, and Topamax. After 6 months of infusions the pain was back down to the original site and I was able to come off all the meds (with the help of Suboxone). After another 2 infusions even the Suboxone was gone. I went back to work and life went on normally except for that 1 day a month.
Don't give up Hun. The place you end up is not pretty. I know feeling like a guinea pig is not fun but you can find what works for you so you can at least manage the pain.

Willow
May you walk in the eye of your Gods!

OMG, what an ordeal you've been through and so many meds !!
Thank you for your input & story.
So, how many Ketamine infusions over the 6 mo. period? Were you inpatient for them and if so, for how long were you admitted? Did insurance cover any part?
So far I'm able to avoid the narcotics except for P.T. Maybe I should wait until it gets that bad?

heatherg23 01-10-2014 04:12 PM

That's weird. Alzheimer's medicine isn't exactly known for helping RSD symptoms. That's just bizarre. I wouldn't take it but that's just me.I think they are just trying things. But I know what it's like in the 90's I was misdiagnosed (previous condition) and I was put on everything under the sun. I know that feeling of being a test subject.

Heather

daylilyfan 01-10-2014 10:35 PM

If I understand correctly, Namenda is in the same family of meds as ketamine, methadone and tramadol - NMDA receptor antagonists.

Memantine treatment of complex regional pain syndrome: a preliminary report of six cases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17314583

Lottie 01-10-2014 11:43 PM

Az-Di - how much physical therapy have you done? I believe PT is the reason I am not in my w/c full time. I did 3x per week for one whole year. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Heck yeah! I am off most narcotics. Take cymbalta, tramadol, lidocaine patches, voltaren gel and some percocet.and don't forget warm soaks in epsom salt / magnesium. I was offered topamax, but I didn't want to take it. I also have done several lumbar sympathetic blocks. Be well - Lottie

AZ-Di 01-11-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottie (Post 1042777)
Az-Di - how much physical therapy have you done? I believe PT is the reason I am not in my w/c full time. I did 3x per week for one whole year. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Heck yeah! I am off most narcotics. Take cymbalta, tramadol, lidocaine patches, voltaren gel and some percocet.and don't forget warm soaks in epsom salt / magnesium. I was offered topamax, but I didn't want to take it. I also have done several lumbar sympathetic blocks. Be well - Lottie

Oh, yes! Lots of P.T.!! They are worth their weight in gold! I was allowed 60
visits per year by insurance and used them up in 6 mo. so when I had to pay out of pocket I had to cut back. They feel I have reached a plateau of sorts so now I will still work to keep what I've gained.
P.T. is the only time I take Nucynta (narcotic).
I take pretty much what you take except tramadol, what is that?
Thanks Lottie!

Lottie 01-11-2014 08:49 PM

Hi AZ-DI, tramadol is a pain reliever also known as Ultram. It works in a similiar way to narcotics but without many of the side effects. Glad to know you have been doing lots of PT. That is so important! I personally find it hard to stick with when I don't have therapy appointments & cannot afford to pay out of pocket. I try to schedule my exercises on my calendar as though I had an appointment with my therapist :-)


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