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cat1234 01-14-2014 02:56 PM

Can One Night of Drinks Cause Irreversible Damage to PN??
 
I have been searching this forum for months and have posted a couple of times about my increasingly worsening peripheral neuropathy. Like many of you, my doctors told me this was NOT alcoholic neuropathy. After reading everything the users have expressed on this site, I decided to quit gluten, simple sugars, alcohol, etc. since they seem to all make the symptoms worsen for you all. And I have been on a vitamin regime of B-complex, sublingual B12, Vitamin C, Alpha Lipoic Acid/L-Carnitine, and Benfotiamine.

Last Friday, I was out with friends and family who were all imbibing as usual. I decided to join in and had 3 vodka sodas (which is a lot for someone who has not been drinking and is fairly small). Needless to say, I was pretty buzzed and feeling good.

The next day I felt tired and a bit hungover but my neuropathy did not seem to be any different. Now it is 4 days later and I am a train wreck! The pain in my feet is just awful to the point it hurts to stand too long. My hands are sore and my legs feel like they are falling asleep half the time.

I am sure now that the alcohol combined with my excessive dieting has caused all of my problems. There is no other explanation as to why all of a sudden it has become so much worse right? Btw that is a rhetorical question!

What I want to know is could this one night have caused irreversible damage or could the nerves just be irritated??? I made an appointment with my doctor but it is not for several weeks and I am really scared :(.

Stacy2012 01-14-2014 04:11 PM

No, I don't think drinking one night caused permanent damage.

It did probably irritate it, cause it to flare that can last a few days. I certainly have had a melt down with eating carbs/sugar and paid the price for days afterwards with bad flares.

It could also simply be a flare and not caused by anything other than that is how pn is sometimes. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to flares, things I think will cause it sometimes does not then other times it flares and I have no idea why.

ElaineD 01-14-2014 04:42 PM

No.

Hugs, Elaine

mrsD 01-14-2014 05:31 PM

How excessive was this dieting? If you had done the awful "low fat" type diets, you would have low levels of essential fatty acids...and these are used to maintain and repair the nervous system. This is why we don't hear about "low fat" diets much anymore. You need a certain amount of good fats daily to maintain yourself. (Omega-3's).

I don't know where you are from but the weather this morning on CNN was significant. Several LOW pressure centers are going to sweep thru the US all week, one right after the other. LOWs are significant for flares. Anyone with chronic pain, is going to feel pretty crumby this week, I expect.:rolleyes:

zorro1 01-15-2014 12:18 AM

Hopefully you do have it as its one of the few that are reversible. In any case its a toxin thats really going to irritate damaged nerves.

I have it and my PN stopped spreading exactly the day I stopped drinking but even one glass of beer and I light up like a Christmas tree :(

cat1234 01-15-2014 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1043580)
How excessive was this dieting? If you had done the awful "low fat" type diets, you would have low levels of essential fatty acids...and these are used to maintain and repair the nervous system. This is why we don't hear about "low fat" diets much anymore. You need a certain amount of good fats daily to maintain yourself. (Omega-3's).

I don't know where you are from but the weather this morning on CNN was significant. Several LOW pressure centers are going to sweep thru the US all week, one right after the other. LOWs are significant for flares. Anyone with chronic pain, is going to feel pretty crumby this week, I expect.:rolleyes:

Thank you for the response and for pointing out the weather change. The dieting has been an ongoing lifestyle for me probably for the past 25 years. I just watch every calorie, but I definitely eat fats. It is more carbs and sugars that I avoid and I eat a lot less than your average person. But I eat seafood every evening pretty much, especially salmon, so I would think omega-3s would not be an issue. My morning smoothie also contains protein powder with omegas. I do happen to use stevia almost everyday and sometimes sucralose as well. I wonder if this contributes to neuropathy? I have googled it and found people who swear it does but then again you could probably google organic spinach and find someone who says it caused their medical problems!

My feet, hands and legs are still the worst they have ever been this morning. I hope you all are right since it seems hard to believe that even if this is alcoholic neuropathy, that one night of drinking could cause this much damage...but I am encouraged (if that is the right word for it) that many of you have flares and cannot find the root source or in Stacy2012's reply bad eating. That indicates that this may pass...oh but I am taking 125 mg Tramadol a day and it barely touches it and have not had to take it in a while :(

Thank you everyone for your replies. It is difficult to find real life experiences with this pain anywhere else, and nobody in my life understands what is going on because I "look" okay.

Dr. Smith 01-15-2014 01:58 PM

I'm getting the feeling that once the nerves are damaged—regardless of the original cause/reason—then anything that has a deliterious effect on nerves might best be avoided. OTOH, ya gotta live, and the occasional flare—if not permanent—may be worth paying the piper for once in a great while.

Just my personal opinion/observation—I could be wrong.

Doc

cat1234 01-15-2014 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Smith (Post 1043768)
I'm getting the feeling that once the nerves are damaged—regardless of the original cause/reason—then anything that has a deliterious effect on nerves might best be avoided. OTOH, ya gotta live, and the occasional flare—if not permanent—may be worth paying the piper for once in a great while.

Just my personal opinion/observation—I could be wrong.

Doc

WELL SAID! Every once in awhile it is nice to feel normal again and live it up :)

hopeful 01-16-2014 12:39 PM

I agree every once in awhile it is nice to feel normal again. Cat I'm curious to know if you were possibly dancing that night. I have tried that and pay dearly the next day.

I have flare and my son but it this way last week, "there seems to be no rhythm or reason for these flare ups mom. They just happen."

Hang in there. I hope your feeling better today!

cat1234 01-17-2014 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hopeful (Post 1043947)
I agree every once in awhile it is nice to feel normal again. Cat I'm curious to know if you were possibly dancing that night. I have tried that and pay dearly the next day.

I have flare and my son but it this way last week, "there seems to be no rhythm or reason for these flare ups mom. They just happen."

Hang in there. I hope your feeling better today!

That is funny! No dancing...I did not have that much to drink :winky:

I am not feeling better at all-still pretty bad pain in feet and legs feel like they are falling asleep all the time. Plus I am FREEZING! Usually my flares do not last an entire week or at least they seem to begin to abate after 4-5 days. This is just very strange and I ended up taking 125mg of tramadol over the course of the day yesterday...not good :(.


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