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joopiter296 10-09-2014 12:09 AM

ketamine infusion for RSD/CRPS
 
I am considering the in-patient ketamine infusion if I am accepted and the doctor I'm going to see recommends it. I have had CRPS in my right foot/leg for 12 years now and have run the gamet of treatments from all kinds of meds, PT, nerve blocks, a continuous epidural, and trial spinal cord stimulator. When my pain spikes, nothing relieves it (except sleep)! What works best is keeping it still long enough until the pain lets up enough to very gradually do PT, but that generally takes a few months after a flare-up. I recently fell very hard on my affected foot and my pain skyrocketed like never before. I live in Virginia Beach, but the closest place I can find that does the in-patient ketamine is Carolinas Pain Institute in Winston Salem, NC (about 4+ hours away. Is anyone out there familiar with a closer place? Or does anyone even have any personal experience with this particular place and Dr. James North? Everyone there I have talked to has been very helpful over the phone. Also, any info that anyone can give me who has gone through an in-patient ketamine (good and bad) would be appreciated! Thanks. Wishing you all days with less pain!:)

TerriLHF 10-11-2014 10:30 AM

Ketamine Infusion
 
Hi,

I have not done the in-pt infusion but I have had 3 out-pt high dose(500 mg in 1 day) 1 day infusions. 2 of the 3 have worked very well( the last one being on Tuesday...holding strong so far). The one infusion that didn't hold was because we tried to half my dose of Lyrica...didn't work.

The in-pt infusions gives you a much higher ending Ketamine level that will hopefully give you good pain relief.

I also have R foot/ankle CRPS. I am in Northern Va and am being treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. My CRPS resulted from ankle surgery in May...then I developed a blood clot in the leg right before my nerve block was supposed to be done, so that is why we have gone right to Ketamine.

Have had PT, and have Dr's in Pain Management, Physical Medicine ( CRPS specialist), Foot & Ankle Surgery, Ortho surgeon and a Primary Care Dr.

I have had to fight to get every one of them to be aggressive about CRPS except for the specialist. She is going to try a different therapy on my foot & ankle called Neuroprolotherapy. They have used it on the Wounded Warriors with CRPS and have good success with pain reduction and remission of CRPS.

Wishing you the very best!!!!

Terri:)

joopiter296 10-21-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerriLHF (Post 1102499)
Hi,

I have not done the in-pt infusion but I have had 3 out-pt high dose(500 mg in 1 day) 1 day infusions. 2 of the 3 have worked very well( the last one being on Tuesday...holding strong so far). The one infusion that didn't hold was because we tried to half my dose of Lyrica...didn't work.

The in-pt infusions gives you a much higher ending Ketamine level that will hopefully give you good pain relief.

I also have R foot/ankle CRPS. I am in Northern Va and am being treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. My CRPS resulted from ankle surgery in May...then I developed a blood clot in the leg right before my nerve block was supposed to be done, so that is why we have gone right to Ketamine.

Have had PT, and have Dr's in Pain Management, Physical Medicine ( CRPS specialist), Foot & Ankle Surgery, Ortho surgeon and a Primary Care Dr.

I have had to fight to get every one of them to be aggressive about CRPS except for the specialist. She is going to try a different therapy on my foot & ankle called Neuroprolotherapy. They have used it on the Wounded Warriors with CRPS and have good success with pain reduction and remission of CRPS.

Wishing you the very best!!!!

Terri:)

Thanks for the info Terri!
Do you by any chance know if they even do the in-patient? If not, do you have a # I can call to get more info? Do I have to be military to go there? Thank you so much! I hope you can get yours to go into remission. Sounds like they caught yours early enough that it might. Take care!
Denise

rachel's daugther 10-22-2014 01:11 AM

My daughter has had inpatient Ketamine with Dr. North twice now. He is a wonderful doctor and his fellows (you will see them the most) are wonderful. I know a few other people who have go see him too. We would all say it is/was diffidently worth the trip. You have to have someone stay with you during the infusion which is in the ICU. The nurses are great and very helpful. There is also a place you can stay after and before the infusion call the SECU house. It's $30 a night and you will need to stay at least 1 night after infusion (we usually stay 2 nights after infusion) They also have a dinner every night for their guests. Sounds like you will drive as we have to fly home (Illinois) so maybe you would not have to stay if you don't want too. Please give this treatment a try, it has helped my daughter so much, best of luck to you.

Kitt 10-22-2014 08:51 AM

Welcome joopiter296. :Wave-Hello:

joopiter296 10-22-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rachel's daugther (Post 1104473)
My daughter has had inpatient Ketamine with Dr. North twice now. He is a wonderful doctor and his fellows (you will see them the most) are wonderful. I know a few other people who have go see him too. We would all say it is/was diffidently worth the trip. You have to have someone stay with you during the infusion which is in the ICU. The nurses are great and very helpful. There is also a place you can stay after and before the infusion call the SECU house. It's $30 a night and you will need to stay at least 1 night after infusion (we usually stay 2 nights after infusion) They also have a dinner every night for their guests. Sounds like you will drive as we have to fly home (Illinois) so maybe you would not have to stay if you don't want too. Please give this treatment a try, it has helped my daughter so much, best of luck to you.

It's so good to hear from someone who has been to CPI and had Dr. North. And even better to know how much you like him and have had success. How far apart were her treatments and why did she need a second? I have heard that people often need boosters after having it, but didn't realize it's possible to have to go through the whole treatment twice. Is hers now is remission? Also, do you mind telling me how much the whole thing costs and did you have insurance that covered your daughter's treatments? That's one worry I have is that my insurance won't cover it at all or cover much. What kind of insurance did you have and how much of the whole treatment charges and doctor bills did it cover? Thanks so much for any questions you can answer! I'm so glad that your daughter is doing better.
Denise

Vrae 10-23-2014 10:53 PM

Hi Joopiter296,

Gosh we're almost twins, but I'm afraid mine has spread all over the place :(

I do not live in your area, but I do have an initial consult for out-patient ketamine the first week of November. I can't seem to find anyone accepting new patients for in-patient in my area and there are just a handful of practitioners in the state that even do the ketamine treatments; so I was pretty stoked just to get this appointment.

Like you I have no idea about what insurance will cover. I suppose I'm about to find out. :wink:

Best of luck with your treatment! Please keep us posted! :hug:

joopiter296 10-25-2014 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrae (Post 1104724)
Hi Joopiter296,

Gosh we're almost twins, but I'm afraid mine has spread all over the place :(

I do not live in your area, but I do have an initial consult for out-patient ketamine the first week of November. I can't seem to find anyone accepting new patients for in-patient in my area and there are just a handful of practitioners in the state that even do the ketamine treatments; so I was pretty stoked just to get this appointment.

Like you I have no idea about what insurance will cover. I suppose I'm about to find out. :wink:

Best of luck with your treatment! Please keep us posted! :hug:

I'm so sorry to hear that yours has spread so much. I'm always curious...did something you know of cause it to spread? I can't imagine mine spreading anymore that what it has up my leg because just to have one limb so badly affected is agony. I'm in so much pain, i can barely move and have no idea how i will be able to tolerate such a long trip or even sit up for the office visit. I'm flat out with the foot elevated 24/7. Please keep me posted on your progress as well. I'm anxious to hear how your appointment goes

Vrae 10-25-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joopiter296 (Post 1104930)
I'm so sorry to hear that yours has spread so much. I'm always curious...did something you know of cause it to spread? I can't imagine mine spreading anymore that what it has up my leg because just to have one limb so badly affected is agony. I'm in so much pain, i can barely move and have no idea how i will be able to tolerate such a long trip or even sit up for the office visit. I'm flat out with the foot elevated 24/7. Please keep me posted on your progress as well. I'm anxious to hear how your appointment goes


Gosh that just sounds terrible. I'm so sorry hon. CRPS can be so brutal. :hug: Just try and stay focused on the help you will be receiving. Is it possible to try and start moving around a little bit in advance? Of course I'm not a doctor and you'd want to check with yours first on any restrictions you might have.

I really have no idea why mine spread. It was several years before spread started to where I'm at now. It's beyond time for ketamine for me I think. Of course I am a little nervous as anyone is with any treatment I think, but I am trying to remain focused on the potential relief. I have heard such good things!

Sweet.. I will keep you posted and you do the same.. okay?

Best of luck! Vrae

ShaggyChic_1201 10-29-2014 08:58 PM

Ketamin clinical trial
 
The Hospital for Special Surgery in NYC is starting a trial for CRPS. 5 days inpatient plus epidural, 4 hr infusions at 1, 2, & 3 months after, plus f/u visits.

Trial commitment is 6 months and probably won't begin until January, 2015.

Control group gets epidural and sedative, which would offer some relief at least.

646-714-6270 - Jodie

:hug:

Shaggy


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