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H1N1Guy 10-20-2014 06:57 PM

Kratom for Neuropathy
 
There seems to be quite a bit of interest on here regarding Kratom for neuropathic pain, so I thought I would start this thread so that people who have tried it can report their experience. I experienced good results until it became illegal here and I had to give it up.

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Balanchine 10-21-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by H1N1Guy (Post 1104255)
There seems to be quite a bit of interest on here regarding Kratom for neuropathic pain, so I thought I would start this thread so that people who have tried it can report their experience. I experienced good results until it became illegal here and I had to give it up.

I read about Kratom for the first time only recently, did some reading and youtube viewing and ordered some. I've now tried it twice.

I should preface my comments by saying that I don't have pain, just increasing numbness and tingling. I also some years back had cancer and was on Oxycodone and Fentanyl during and after radiation treatment. So I have experience with opiods.

My first impressions are that Kratom is not dissimilar to a mild version of an opiod. I have a fairly high tolerance level for the latter, which probably mitigates the effect for me. It's definitely pleasant though. Euphoria, a feeling of well-being, a general full body sensation that, were I in pain, would probably help. It did definitely take my mind off the annoying tingly sensation in my hands and arms for a few hours, so that by itself is a good thing.

I've read that it can be addicting so I don't plan on using it every day or even more than a time or two a week. But as a little vacation from discomfort it's now in my toolbag. People who are truly agonized from PN would benefit, imho. Naturally you have to take your own situation into account before experimenting.

Balanchine 03-05-2015 01:11 PM

Commenting again, mainly to bump up the topic, since I just read a few posts from some years ago regarding intractable pain. Kratom is good stuff and helps a lot of people. It's natural, and legal in most states. Anyone who'd like to know more can PM me. (PS I'm not a vendor of the stuff, just trying to help)

joe brush 03-05-2015 01:21 PM

H2o Hydration ( water ) Consumption = Relief
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Balanchine (Post 1127658)
Commenting again, mainly to bump up the topic, since I just read a few posts from some years ago regarding intractable pain. Kratom is good stuff and helps a lot of people. It's natural, and legal in most states. Anyone who'd like to know more can PM me. (PS I'm not a vendor of the stuff, just trying to help)

I noted from Shingles 7/2013 evolving into PHN by Drinking mostly / only water along with recommended daily amount 8 glasses daily , my upper branch Trigeminal Nerve Pain has DECREASED substantially in just 4 short days so far . DEHYDRATION without a doubt prolonged and worsened both Pain & Condition . Try it .

janieg 06-23-2015 12:01 PM

After my horrid night last night, I've gone ahead and purchased a small quantity to see if it will help when I'm flaring.

I'm not one to like feeling "altered," so it will be interesting to see how I react.

Balanchine 06-23-2015 01:03 PM

Janie, I hope it helps you and think it likely will. For me anyway there's no altered/psychotropic drug feeling. Look forward to your reaction!

janieg 06-23-2015 01:22 PM

There were lots of strains to choose from, so after a bunch of reading, I selected one that seemed most often referenced for help with pain.

One of the concerns I have is what I'm reading that in small dosage, it acts as a stimulant. Do you find that to be the case? That would not be helpful.

icelander 06-23-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by janieg (Post 1150205)
After my horrid night last night, I've gone ahead and purchased a small quantity to see if it will help when I'm flaring.

I'm not one to like feeling "altered," so it will be interesting to see how I react.

Kratom basically targets the opiod receptors and will feel very similar to many opioids and also has some of the same drawbacks. I'd do some research. Having said that I love the stuff and now still use it for really bad days. Using it on occasion is very safe IMO and no worries about addiction. I'd say you could easily use it once or three times a week without addiction of any kind.

Kratom is dose and quality dependent. I buy from Phytoextractum and their quality is excellent. Keep trying larger doses if you are not getting results. Empty stomach also is important. It comes on fairly fast though so that's great. I also like the Malay form but they also have extracts that are killer potent. Some forms are better for pain than others, some are more energizing. Be careful with these very potent extracts as addiction can be more of an issue. And if you take a lot take a laxative. Like the traditional opioids this causes constipation, just not as severe. And there is more but you can PM me if you have questions. If I can find my pms that is. lol

caroline2 06-23-2015 01:59 PM

Never heard of Kratom so did some search and posting this link:

kratomonline.org/kratom-effects/
Oct 22, 2013 - Kratom Effects and Side Effects Review. ... Promotes Health: Kratom has been used for hundreds of years by Southeast Asian cultures as a ...


I'm headed into month 2 on Inosine and Sphingolin and noting less tingle/burning on my thigh damage from hip replacement, Cutaneous Femoral Nerve damage a side effect I'm living with headed to year 5.

Good to know about Kratom but for now I'm sticking with these 2 new nerve supps. Thanks...

Balanchine 06-23-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by janieg (Post 1150246)
There were lots of strains to choose from, so after a bunch of reading, I selected one that seemed most often referenced for help with pain.

One of the concerns I have is what I'm reading that in small dosage, it acts as a stimulant. Do you find that to be the case? That would not be helpful.

Janie, they do say (whoever they are) that smaller doses are more stimulating and that might be true, but I haven't experimented in that way. I got myself a kitchen scale and after some experimenting found that a dose of 5 grams works just right for me. This is about a rounded teaspoon plus a bit more (dependent on the strain and therefore the density).

I began with a dose of a teaspoon leveled off. So you might begin that way and see how it affects you. So they say (them again!), the red strains are more sedating, the greens and whites more energetic. I'm not sure I find that to be the case though. For me it's mainly which vendors and strains are more potent.

My guess is you'll soon find your sweet spot. I hope you like this miracle substance as much as I do!


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