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Feck 02-16-2015 03:02 AM

Statins
 
Useful: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...T-20045772?p=1

Harmful: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-revealed.aspx

Who is correct? One opinion (there are others): http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/p...erous-statins/

I intend to ask all prescribers if the proposed medication is a statin. If so, are there non-statin alternatives?

mrsD 02-16-2015 08:29 AM

Search "statin" on our website. I have many many links in many places, that address this dilemma.

IMO Mayo is just about the worst place to get an unbiased opinion about anything involving preventive medicine.

Would you believe that REAL research into cholesterol has not been done until recently? Stephanie Seneff PhD at MIT is doing it now. She is on YouTube with several interviews explaining.
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/w...ally_work.html

Dr. Kendricks and the WHO MONICA study on cholesterol/heart disease link (which they report does not exist):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE

Hannah Yoseph and her husband on the chemistry of how statins are so toxic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19uxXqWF8h4

There is a book that started the whole statin critique, called The Cholesterol Myths.
http://www.amazon.com/Cholesterol-My...+uffe+ravnskov
In it the author explains how Dr. Keys who started the whole cholesterol studies for the drug companies, threw out data that didn't fit his assumptions. It is a real eye opener, if you can find it.

I think one of the most useful information sources is Dr. Graveline. He lost his memory on Lipitor. He has a website, and a book called Lipitor, Thief of memory.

Mayo clinic uses the criteria of "level of care" throughout its website. In some cases, this is useful, but in others, they do not pay attention to ANYTHING useful if it is not in the medical level of care list. Unfortunately the drug companies in this country have just about saturated doctors' minds that statins are safe, safe enough to add to our water supply and dose our little children too! I recall one summer, both TIME and NEWSWEEK had pro-statin articles, suggesting just that...to put statins in our WATER. How vile is that? We will see statins become an historical oddity, once the new non-statin cholesterol drugs are more common. One is almost available now.

Statins were initially offered for people with the genetic errors in lipoproteins. Then the greed began, as drug execs decided that they could make tons of $$$$ creating a need for them for everyone! They brainwashed doctors, so that most doctors don't even suggest COQ-10 to patients taking statins! Some don't even know it is necessary.

Kitty 02-16-2015 08:50 AM

Statins are being prescribed even when levels are well within normal range. :confused:

Statins cause damage to nerve cells......but doctors still continue to push these drugs. Big Pharma has used scare tactics to convince folks that statins are life savers. For them, maybe ($$).......but not for those who take them.

But, it's a win-win for Big Pharma because when you get PN from statin use (which is practically guaranteed) they have a pill for that, too! :rolleyes:

mrsD 02-16-2015 09:16 AM

The newer studies (check dates of the papers), and many from other countries, tend to be more "anti-statin". The Netherlands have conclusions that statins cause neuropathies. And Canada posted a large paper showing women do not benefit from statins. Dr. B Golomb MD has many comments on the net about not using statins in the elderly. Search "Beatrice Golomb MD statins" and you will find lots to read about!;)

When viewing pro-statin papers, check the authors to see if they have links to drug companies. Many do.

Our FDA while toeing a fine line with statins still is refusing to authorize them as OTC medications (as was done in UK). They have refused 3 times. They are also no longer approving statin based new drug applications. However they may still approve combo drugs with an prior approved statin and one other lipid lowering drug.

caroline2 06-30-2015 05:59 PM

Between the Lyrica and Crestor/Lipitor ads on TV, I could be screaming all evening...but I put tv on mute and close by eyes...

I have a bridge friend who is mid 80's now and has dealt with neuropathy for probably 20 yrs or so...she has been taking statins for 30 yrs she tells us. I've mentioned this to her before and even lent her a book on the "cholesterol myth", she liked the book, even bought her own copy but won't get off statins.... I give up.

caroline2 08-29-2015 11:54 AM

An FYI - The Statin Nation

https://www.fmtv.com/free-screening-august


I've been studying cholesterol for a long time and of course the statin issue. Just found out a casual friend who deals with nasty neuropathy has been taking statins for 30 yrs as she fears cholesterol. The fear from the medical world. Oh, I mentioned that friend above. Second mention.

Patrick Winter 09-11-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feck (Post 1124333)
Useful: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...T-20045772?p=1

Harmful: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-revealed.aspx

Who is correct? One opinion (there are others): http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/p...erous-statins/

I intend to ask all prescribers if the proposed medication is a statin. If so, are there non-statin alternatives?


My Cardiologist is pushing this new injected cholesterol drug on me now since I refuse statin therapy for my high LDL's. Says I'm a perfect for it since it is familial and the LDL can not be brought down even with diet and lifestyle changes. It supposedly had an excellent trial with very few side effects as compared to statins. Says, the beauty of it is it only reduces the LDL's, so it's a win-win. Statins reduced overall cholesterol. I just don't like "new". Seems like you never know what the real deal is with drugs until years go by. Feel like anyone taking this now is a test case.

mrsD 09-11-2015 08:46 AM

I think it depends on what your cholesterol numbers are.

I have seen familial patients with total cholesterol approaching 800.
Using a statin in high dose only reduced one woman to around 400.

If your are under 300, you may not need anything.

Keeping your triglycerides down with fish oil would be a big help.
This reduces viscosity of the blood.

Make sure your thyroid is in good shape...hypo raises cholesterol.

Patrick Winter 09-11-2015 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1170255)
I think it depends on what your cholesterol numbers are.

I have seen familial patients with total cholesterol approaching 800.
Using a statin in high dose only reduced one woman to around 400.

If your are under 300, you may not need anything.

Keeping your triglycerides down with fish oil would be a big help.
This reduces viscosity of the blood.

Make sure your thyroid is in good shape...hypo raises cholesterol.

Mine was 277, HDL's around 65, Tri's at 123. The LDL was the big one around like 179. I have a very good diet and in very good shape. Mother had same issue, although her diet is not so great. My hyopthyroid issues are slight according to bloodwork. 3cm benign nodule in the thyroid.

mrsD 09-11-2015 09:02 AM

This link gives the ranges for familial genetic hypercholesteremia.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/121298-overview

You are not eligible for that diagnosis with your untreated numbers.

The drug companies have worked tirelessly to get the definition retooled to convince doctors to give statins to just about everyone.

The new drug agents are only indicated for patients with really high numbers. I, too, have no clue as to their safety either.


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