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GerryW 05-27-2015 01:20 PM

Patience is required
 
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.VWYJ6M9VhBc

caroline2 05-27-2015 01:43 PM

Sure looks like a lot of good supps, you might want to look at grape seed extract as well. I don't deal with PD but know this antioxidant addresses so much. Oh I see you are getting some Resveratrol, which is an OPC as is pycnogenol and grape seed extract. I'm going into 20 yr soon on OPC's, primarily grape seed extract.

www.health-science-spirit.com/parkinsons.html
Parkinson's disease, formerly also called Paralysis agitans or Shaking palsy, ..... At lunchtime again take vitamin C, E, grape seed extract and possibly ginkgo ...

Greetings from santa monica

GerryW 05-27-2015 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caroline2 (Post 1144694)
Sure looks like a lot of good supps, you might want to look at grape seed extract as well. I don't deal with PD but know this antioxidant addresses so much. Oh I see you are getting some Resveratrol, which is an OPC as is pycnogenol and grape seed extract. I'm going into 20 yr soon on OPC's, primarily grape seed extract.

www.health-science-spirit.com/parkinsons.html
Parkinson's disease, formerly also called Paralysis agitans or Shaking palsy, ..... At lunchtime again take vitamin C, E, grape seed extract and possibly ginkgo ...

Greetings from santa monica

Thanks for the interesting article. BTW, Life Extension Mix contains grape seed extract.

johnt 05-28-2015 04:06 PM

If the New Scientist article is correct we are to believe that "many ... recipients [of the original stem cell implants] improved dramatically around three years or more after the implants" and that the new work is expected to "see an improvement in around six months to a year", with "the maximum benefits ... predicted to happen in three to five years' time".

My concern is that with such long lead times clinical trials will, if usual techniques are used, such as monitoring UPDRS scores, require decades to complete.

Once again this shows the importance of having good biomarkers. But could we ever approve a new procedure purely on the results of biomarkers, without any clinical improvement being seen?

In general I am sceptical of any work that promises that something good will happen in five years. Perhaps, as GerryW writes, "patience is required".

John


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