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anon122822 07-15-2015 09:07 AM

Why it may be a good idea to eat organic foods especially with a recovering brain
 
Over the past month or so I have taken a keen interest in looking into the role nutrition has in recovering from the issues we suffer as a result of a concussion. Through that research I have fond many people who have suffered brain injuries and had remarkable results from focusing on their nutrition. Each individual is different genetically and biochemically so it would be foolish of me to recommend any one kind of diet as being the end all be all best of the best.

One thing that I did find that is recommendable to everyone no matter the individual is eating organic foods, more specifically fruits and vegetables. There have been many studies looking into the amount of residual pesticides found on conventionally grown fruits and vegetables and there affects on human health. Supposed experts say that the amount found on these foods is able to be processed and eliminated by the liver. What they are not accounting for is the vast amount of these chemicals we are intaking every single day. When these chemicals get tested to be qualified to be used they are tested individualy. We do not account for how the liver will be able to process having 10s or 100s of these different chemicals every day.

For us that have brain injuries it is especially important to not be intaking these. many of these chemicals are neurotoxic which means that they essentially destroy brain cells. I dont know about you but i would prefer to not have anything that can cause harm to my already fragile brain inside my body.

For example. Strawberries are a commonly eaten fruit. When conventionally grown they are known to contain 45 different pesticides. 6 are known carcinogens, 16 are hormone disruptors, 7 are Neurotoxins, 6 are developmental or reproductive toxins, and 6 are bee toxins. They are found in varying rates with the highest frequency of one pesticide being found on 55 percent of the strawberries.

I would link sources but im to new to the site to be allowed to do that i think. Also im by no means an expert on this topic. I simply think that it is something that should be thought about, especially when trying to heal the brain.

Mark in Idaho 07-15-2015 12:43 PM

Strawberries are one of the dirty dozen. The organic strawberries still have many of these residues because they start with non-organic strawberry starts. Moderating consumption works for me. A strong blood brain barrier helps protect our brain from toxins. Good brain focused supplementation helps keep the BBB strong.

Here's a good article with a list of good to bad produce.
http://www.drgourmet.com/askdrgourme...l#.VaaX9LWo1lg

It says how to wash produce to greatly reduce the toxin levels.

btw, Sucralose was discovered while trying to develop a pesticide. Chlorine is often used in pesticides. They swapped 3 chlorine atoms into sugar in hopes of making a pesticide that attracted the insects with sweetness. It is 320 to 1000 times sweeter than sucrose. And, it has those 3 organic chlorine atoms.

Although they can identify the toxins as they are excreted in urine, there is no definitive understanding about what those toxins do when ingested. Some are more sensitive to these things that others.

anon122822 07-15-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1155260)
Strawberries are one of the dirty dozen. The organic strawberries still have many of these residues because they start with non-organic strawberry starts. Moderating consumption works for me. A strong blood brain barrier helps protect our brain from toxins. Good brain focused supplementation helps keep the BBB strong.

Here's a good article with a list of good to bad produce.
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It says how to wash produce to greatly reduce the toxin levels.

btw, Sucralose was discovered while trying to develop a pesticide. Chlorine is often used in pesticides. They swapped 3 chlorine atoms into sugar in hopes of making a pesticide that attracted the insects with sweetness. It is 320 to 1000 times sweeter than sucrose. And, it has those 3 organic chlorine atoms.

Although they can identify the toxins as they are excreted in urine, there is no definitive understanding about what those toxins do when ingested. Some are more sensitive to these things that others.

Thanks for the response, mark.

Can you further explain what you meant when you said that organic strawberries still contain high levels of these pesticides? Does that go for all organic fruits and vegetables or only strawberries? I have been eating large quantities of organic fruits and veggies so I want to be cautious if this is the case.

I have done research on the comparison between conventional and organic with regard to residue levels and almost all of them show close to 0 percent of all kinds of pesticides for organic. The highest value i have seen which is rare is like 1-2 percent.

Mark in Idaho 07-15-2015 01:17 PM

Organic strawberries are grown from non-organic starts because there is no volume source of organic starts. This allows them to be labeled as organic but some residues still exist.

I'm not discounting organic. For many, organic is a budget buster. The research into the health values of organic is still weak. Just because they can measure the toxins being expelled does not mean those toxins are impacting health.

Bud 07-15-2015 09:00 PM

This is from a crop duster so take it for what it is worth...I won't touch organic cuz of the thousands of pounds an acre of manure used for fertilizer on some stuff. My planes stink like s... For days afterwards and I can't stand asking my employees to work in it even though I give them a bonus for doing such.

Sorry, just couldn't help myself.

Bud

Littlebear41 07-15-2015 09:13 PM

I could not fail to disagree with you less.
 
Thanks for this topic. i found after my last shock that 'being aware' and really paying attention to the messages of my body, i learned that its NEED to have a better diet and more careful attention to the ruinous poisons and environmental hazards was important to eliminate.
I found berries to be very helpful if i use just the better ones, upping my protein intake and many other focuses in my diet have made the difference between being able to hold a job, and not.

Thanks
Littlebear41

MicroMan 07-15-2015 10:20 PM

While a healthy diet is important, whether it derives from organic or conventionally grown production practices is irrelevant, in my opinion. There are no nutritional differences between conventional and organically grown produce, though the unit size of conventional produce tends to be larger. Claiming an organic diet is superior is not true, and only propagates misinformation about organically sold produce. In fact, from a food safety perspective, organically produced produce has higher theoretical risk due to the use of manure. Also, pesticides can and are found with both production practices, though the public wrongly assumes conventional has more and organic is bereft of them. There's a lot of public misinformation around organically grown produce.

In the end, eat a healthy diet of your choice... that's the key point; conventional or organic is personal preference, nothing more.

Mark in Idaho 07-15-2015 11:45 PM

Littlebear, are you taking any vitamins or other supplements ? It is very difficult to get the levels of some nutrients that the injured brain needs from food.

anon122822 07-16-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1155393)
Littlebear, are you taking any vitamins or other supplements ? It is very difficult to get the levels of some nutrients that the injured brain needs from food.

What vitamins specifically would you recommend? I take vitamin b12, vitamin b50 complex, and vitamin d.

Mark in Idaho 07-16-2015 10:41 AM

Those are the basics for a good start. There is a Vitamins sticky at the top that list the whole suggested regimen.


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