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caroline2 07-15-2015 01:28 PM

Info from Harvard Medical on OA
 
I agree with most of the info here, but would not use canola oil or margarine. I've used some cortisone injections but very limited. Haven't had one for a couple of years. Never done an epidural, had two scripts for this, but never did one. Probably never will.

They talk about Stem Cell Therapy and I know this one as well as PRP injections which work to regenerate joints. These are not insurance covered.
I'm waiting for a windfall of money and then I'll go for the PRP.

They talk about Strontium drug in Europe, and I've been using Strontium Citrate for help with bone health for a few years now. I use it every other day. It's otc and my recent bottle is Doctor's Best. On the off day for Strontium I take 250mg of calcium, some times 500mg.

Every day I take higher dosing of magnesium in a complex form. Malate some times and glycinate, but magnesium is a constant in my life.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/pain/n...arthritis-pain

DejaVu 07-25-2015 02:44 PM

Thanks Caroline,

An interesting article.
The bones in joint affected by OA often show changes. It's important this is addressed. Glad to see it's being addressed. :)

Great basic foods list, too!
I did not realize egg yolks are pro-inflammatory. I rarely eat eggs; yet, I know many people with inflammatory conditions eating eggs daily. I am sharing this article.

Thanks so much sharing this. I enjoy your posts. :D

With Gratitude,
DejaVu

kiwi33 07-26-2015 12:53 AM

There is some evidence that strontium ranelate (patented and sold as Protelos on prescription in some countries) can benefit people with with OA - this is an example; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25888851 .

However, use of it is a risk factor for adverse cardiovascular events - see https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-updat...ovascular-risk . I doubt that the anion (ranelate) is important but the strontium probably is.

There is no evidence that I can find that strontium citrate (available OTC) is of any benefit. See http://www.4bonehealth.org/do-you-re...-osteoporosis/ .

caroline2 07-26-2015 05:28 PM

On eggs, I've heard so many pros and cons on the egg...yolks pro inflammation. I went thru a spell where I threw the yolks out and then said oh forget it, so I eat the whole egg.

I don't eat grains so I'm a protein person and eggs are in my diet.

There are sites about the wonderful egg. I don't overdose, but don't avoid them.

kiwi33 07-26-2015 09:51 PM

Caroline, I am with you as far as egg yolks are concerned.

They are good sources of protein, vitamins, essential fatty acids and trace minerals (see http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html).

A couple of boiled eggs, sourced (for ethical reasons) from a free-range farm, are often part of my breakfast.

mrsD 07-27-2015 04:55 AM

Egg yolks have a very high level of choline in them. Choline is necessary for nerve cell wall repair, and for making acetylcholine which is an important neurotransmitter.

It is difficult to find other food sources to make up for egg yolks if people avoid them.

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/other-nutrients/choline

Choline is involved in the methylation cycle too. Check out the diagram on the Oregon State Univ. link above.

Lara 07-27-2015 05:13 AM

Great (and complex) information on that site. Thanks for posting it.

I like egg yolks too. (cooked that is!)
I had to laugh... went out for breakfast not so long ago and it was fairly early and the person taking my order asked how I liked my eggs. Without even thinking, I said "cooked". Silly me. They had meant poached or boiled or whatever. Nothing worse than getting half raw/half cooked eggs for breakfast. Ick.

mrsD 07-27-2015 06:48 AM

Choline is so essential that in the US... it is added to some pasta products, and now in some children's vitamins.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Flintstone...50-ct/10311444

This is a complex table of choline content of foods:
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles...ne/Choln02.pdf

caroline2 07-27-2015 12:00 PM

I take Inositol (B family) and OFTEN buy the inositol/choline complex. I'm using it now. Thanks.

OT: On PN, I just received an alert from another health group on a person who uses Topomax and she reported it pulls potassium from the body. She deals with neuropathy, so with that she takes extra potassium....I think probably other meds could pull out potassium, I know some BloodPressure meds do. We talked about the value of potassium elsewhere here.....

Lara 07-27-2015 05:19 PM

I take Inositol on an as needed basis for anxiety/panic.
Just looked. My Inositol powder doesn't have choline in it.
I'm pretty sure I get enough in diet though.


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