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injuredbutrecoverin 07-29-2015 09:59 PM

ghost in my brain rehab
 
is anyone thinking of trying out the rehab that clark elliott went through? specifically with those folks in IL?

i can't figure out if this is a scam or not... it almost looks too good to be true.

Laupala 07-30-2015 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by injuredbutrecoverin (Post 1158673)
is anyone thinking of trying out the rehab that clark elliott went through? specifically with those folks in IL?

i can't figure out if this is a scam or not... it almost looks too good to be true.

If I lived in Illinois I'd definitely give them a call, I certainly don't think it's a scam. In principle Dr. Zelinsky should be similar to any other behavioral optometrist. Although, I've seen two of these specialists and neither came anywhere close to the level of detailed diagnostic tests that were described in the book. It sounds like Dr. Zelinsky is just an outstanding doctor whose attention to detail and skill set were just what Clark Elliot needed to jumpstart his recovery. I'm not sure everyone here would benefit as much as he did, it seems some things work for some and not for others.

As far as the brain puzzles he did, I'm not sure. She has a website http://www.designsforstrongminds.com/

injuredbutrecoverin 07-30-2015 09:48 PM

it doesn't bother you that (other than this guy's account) there is no scientific evidence to back any of this up? i took a look at the web-site and the peer reviewed articles that are posted.. they have no results in them. i would imagine that if someone had actually developed a successful treatment for TBI then it would be run through real clinical trials and published in the top journals. seems odd that it would be relegated to some small clinic in IL.

maybe i'm completely wrong.

Laupala 07-31-2015 10:31 AM

I don't know where you were looking, but this page https://nora.cc/member-resources/nor...es-on-nor.html has some 700 articles published in peer-reviewed journals. Obviously not all peer-reviewed articles are publishing results of actual experiments, but just searching a few of them (you need access to a university's credentials unfortunately to access most peer-reviewed literature, unless it's open-access) I found many that published actual results related to the subject matter.

Unfortunately large scale clinical trials like that take a lot of money, and there just hasn't been an emphasis on funding research on TBI treatment until relatively recently. I also doubt that every TBI patient that Dr. Zelinsky sees experiences the dramatic improvement that Clark Elliott did. Every concussion/TBI is different, as we hear so much on this site. Depending on the specifics of what's injured, some people probably respond really well to treatment by someone like Dr. Zelinsky, while the nature of others' injuries might be such that it isn't helpful. From a patients perspective, all we can do is try.

injuredbutrecoverin 07-31-2015 11:55 AM

interesting - thanks for the link, will take a look at these. i wonder why this hasn't come up with the myriad of doctors i have seen already. certainly sounds promising.

i wouldn't mind trying but the cost of the therapy would be something on the order of 10k.. not cheap for something which may not help (and they don't take insurance).


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