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CTjeff 09-17-2015 03:49 AM

Amino acid protocol Dr. Marty Hinz
 
My father(63y.o.) has had Parkinson's for over a decade. I am his son and his main caregiver. He has been on Carbidopa/levodopa for 5+ years. Initially, the drugs aided him to walk and function completely normal with no signs of any Parkinson's symptoms. However, within the last 2 years his symptoms started to become visible and within the last year, he has become almost fully immobile. It has been hard on him and especially me to see him loose most of his independence. My dad has always feared prescription drugs in fear of side affects. He recently read an article about an Amino acid protocol treatment by Dr. Marty Hinz and he was able to find a local doctor trained in the protocol which she guarantees can 100% successfully treat him. I was highly skeptical of her claims, but after doing research it seems promising. I would like to get some opinions from anybody here who has been on the protocol with success or failure. Any tips on other successful methods to ease symptoms would be helpful too.

Thank you

badboy99 09-17-2015 11:19 AM

Give it a try Jeff. If thats what your father and you want.

soccertese 09-17-2015 11:35 AM

doesn't this MD have patients you can talk to that are successfully benefitting from the hinz treatment? if you can't meet and talk to other pd'ers getting relief from this treatment that would be a red flag to me. the hinz protocol isn't cheap, the few users on this board recently complained about price increases if i remember correctly.

there are lots of treatment options between only carbidopa/levodopa and a very expensive, non-independently verified amino acid treatment. how much C/L is he presently taking and what else has he tried? i can't imagine any neurologist just trying C/L when someone is immobile.

badboy99 09-17-2015 11:45 AM

Jeff there are many people who are successfully using the Hinz protocol. I believe there are some who have been using as long as 8 years. When it works it works well. It does take some time and a little bit of tweaking to get the right dose. It may cost more than conventional drugs. I'm sure we both agree your fathers worth it.

Make sure your MD has a good amount of experience treating people with this protocol.

soccertese 09-17-2015 12:09 PM

desperate people often do desperate things and waste a lot of money. there have been no independent trials testing this procedure. the argument is there's no money for the trials, it's all natural ingredients so you can't get patent protection.

but ask yourself, if this procedure consistantly works better than C/L, why are you asking about it on a message board where there's no way to prove the responder has pd much less is getting a benefit? and did they ever even try C/L?

With the internet and social media making it impossible to hide a better alt-med treatment than C/L, the ease of crowdsourcing to fund startups and considering the high price charged for the amino acids used here, it should be easy to fund a trial. if i had someone stand up that i had known for years and trusted at a pd support group meeting and say, i've had great success with the hinz treatment, anyone want to join a trial, i'd consider it. but that's never happened.


finally, who's to say they aren't adding C/L to their supplements? just playing devil's advocate.

badboy99 09-17-2015 01:14 PM

Jeff I'm glad your keeping an open mind about this. You may want to talk to Dr. Hinz directly.

CTjeff 09-18-2015 03:07 AM

Thank you all for your input. My dad is going to start on the protocol next week. I'll keep you guys updated with the results...

The treatment is very expensive and I have my doubts but hope it will be worth it.

anon122822 09-18-2015 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTjeff (Post 1171748)
Thank you all for your input. My dad is going to start on the protocol next week. I'll keep you guys updated with the results...

The treatment is very expensive and I have my doubts but hope it will be worth it.

I personally am on this protocol for the treatment of concussion related issues. my case is rather complex with multiple areas of the brain being affected, thus it has taken us awhile to narrow in on the correct dosage needed for alleviation of my symptoms. What I can say though is that I have thoroughly done my research on this protocol and from everything I have read, this to me looks like one of the most profound medical discoveries as of recent history. They have 19 peer-reviewed medical papers that outline their findings as well as being both Cma and ama certified. I cannot say for 100% certainty that it works simply because I have not had to work for me yet, but I do believe to a 99% rate that it is legitimate. And if what they are proposing is correct then we are looking at not only the complete management and resolution of parkinsons disease, but any neurotransmitter related disease. As seen on their website at https://neurosupport.files.wordpress...lticolored.jpg. This is huge.

I will leave a few links to a few of their papers that are focused on parkinsons disease that you may be interested in reading. I would highly suggest following through with doing this protocol, I very much believe that you will find great success and results in doing so. make sure you stick with it and dont give up on it even if it takes multiple months for it to work. Id appreciate if you could report back with how it works for your father in a few months if possible. I wish you well.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068871/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4211847/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4238750/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266417/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113308/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3355850/

soccertese 09-18-2015 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billbobby21 (Post 1171776)
I personally am on this protocol for the treatment of concussion related issues. my case is rather complex with multiple areas of the brain being affected, thus it has taken us awhile to narrow in on the correct dosage needed for alleviation of my symptoms. What I can say though is that I have thoroughly done my research on this protocol and from everything I have read, this to me looks like one of the most profound medical discoveries as of recent history. They have 19 peer-reviewed medical papers that outline their findings as well as being both Cma and ama certified. I cannot say for 100% certainty that it works simply because I have not had to work for me yet, but I do believe to a 99% rate that it is legitimate. And if what they are proposing is correct then we are looking at not only the complete management and resolution of parkinsons disease, but any neurotransmitter related disease. As seen on their website at https://neurosupport.files.wordpress...lticolored.jpg. This is huge.

I will leave a few links to a few of their papers that are focused on parkinsons disease that you may be interested in reading. I would highly suggest following through with doing this protocol, I very much believe that you will find great success and results in doing so. make sure you stick with it and dont give up on it even if it takes multiple months for it to work. Id appreciate if you could report back with how it works for your father in a few months if possible. I wish you well.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068871/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4211847/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4238750/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266417/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113308/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3355850/


just curious, you don't have parkinsons's, you never posted here before, how did this thread come to your attention?
i'm only going to say peer reviewed is not the same as scientifically proven. you rarely see a drug study done by the company done by the company making the drug as was the case in all these studies. most of the articles aren't actual "trials" but opinion pieces.

i admittedly didn't study these papers, just glanced at them. i found this excerpt hard to believe, general concensus is anything over 250/mg per dose is not going to add anything yet this patient is getting over 10,000mg?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113308/
"Changing the daily L-dopa dosing value by 120 mg can have dramatic clinical results. In general, this is independent of the size of the daily L-dopa dose. For example, a patient was taking 10,800 mg of L-dopa per day (equivalent to 90, 120 mg L-dopa pills) in the competitive inhibition state. The patient reported being frozen in the chair and unable to stand. After a pill stop the patient was placed on 89 pills per day (10,680 mg of L-dopa). After a daily decrease in the L-dopa dosing value of only 120 mg, the patient was able to rise without assistance and ambulate. These results are common, not rare."

badboy99 09-18-2015 09:25 AM

Great Jeff, stick to it and don't give up too easy.


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