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brownehn 02-09-2016 10:13 AM

Our Journey Together - Mood Disorder pcs
 
Many of us are on a similar journey.

Mine began January 3rd when I overheated in a bath I routinely take for hemorrhoids. I fainted and struck my forehead on something. I wasn't out very

long,seconds perhaps; though dizzy and nauseous (like being intoxicated) I managed to resume my routine and get to bed telling myself everything will be OK.

Like most American workaholics, I continued working my fairly physically demanding job of diving dumpsters etc. collecting and selling recyclables. Note

that dumpster diving often has one inverting oneself: it is normal to nearly black out upon returning to upright if you do it quickly. I also continued the

hot baths and came a little close to overheating again a few times. I did not quite feel like everything was OK though my body seemed to function normally:

mild headaches and swelling, both in the ears(which I think I already had) and, seemingly, in the cranium, at night, and relapses of the dizziness and nausea

throughout the first week. I was also hamnmered with nasty cold weather that week; rough. As always, I "pushed through" it.

The original symptoms faded by the second week but a new set of symptoms crept up on me, as I still continued working a full schedule and "pushing through":

a kind of jelly leg feeling, arms too occasionally, increasing irritability and inability to handle all the little stressful things I normally deal with in a

day. Although actually there was some sign of this early, in the first week, but I don't remember as much of it.

Monday the 1st day of week three (MLK Day), I guess I'd have to say my nerves broke down. The very minute I started my route I felt tense and anxious; after

my run (part of the route) it got worse, especially suffering the cold weather I could feel my high blood pressure(bp), though I didn't know that's what it

was, my head unusually explosive during a dive, slightly faint; finally I realized something is really wrong. Turns out by bp was FIFTY units higher than my

usual excellent level (I'm healthy and fit). It came back down as the day progressed and I still finished my route, puzzled that my actual body performance

did not seem to agree with how I felt.

Since then, as I write just past the 5th week, I have not done any full routes, just occasional walking or light work interspersed with days not even

venturing out of the house. The hot baths are carefully controlled with a thermometer. On Saturday of the 4th week I suffered another CONK! on the top of

the head by a recycling bin lid that the wind blew open at a most inopportune time. I'm not sure if that made my problem worse, it was not a stunning blow,

but the following week I did suffer from my first anxiety attack (Th. afternoon), abnormal bp elevation and all, since MLK Day, plus another close call to

an attack (Sa.) Anxiety attacks have this odd property of increasing my blood pressure but my pulse doesn't go with it (so, not a panic attack, but these

are awful too: you lose desire for food, things become deadly serious, nothing is funny, nothing interesting; often feels like a life deciding moment is

coming up and nothing else matters. Then I think about it and just stress me out even further--a vicious cycle.)

I come into this with preexisting conditions. My own personality plays a role in what I'm suffering, I suspect. I'm an anxious person by nature. I've had

a phobia of heights and travel for decades; I've suffered depression and panic attacks (I like to call DPA), though not in recent years until all this. I

have bad habits of hyper-focusing on symptoms, too much looking for negatives, and tend to push myself too hard sometimes, like a lot of Americans. Two of

my siblings are on anti-depressants; conversations with a third convince me she has anxiety and hyper-focus issues as well.

There's also lots of stressful things preceding my mtbi . . and my current disorder bears a striking resemblance to all the krap I had just gone through.

First there was the stress of trying to care for my ailing mom, several months. Then depression and sadness following her passing in August. Then a

harrowing encounter with not-that-great medical care in a small town. During this period my bp was moderately elevated and I suffered a lot of anxiety.

That got resolved but my relief was soon ended by a lot of anxiety about my inability to get a colonoscopy . . That gradually faded, but then the hemorrhoids

that had been developing since October got bad enough that I had to stop this one exercise I was doing for my psoas muscle. . and I was depressed and

fearful over that, for I regarded the hemmorhoids as a threat to my work and I didn't want to do anything surgical. This is what brought on the hot baths,

which btw have so far been pretty effective.

The difference between now and before is that before, I could handle it, and my anxiety or depression was natural, justified. Now, when my brain tires, very

much like what many of you report, I can't handle it. I get impatient, irritable, almost childish . . and realize how many little stressful things we deal

with normally (cf. MissMarch1978's posts). Now I'm vulnerable to attacks which seem senseless, random, almost motivated by some unseen entity. Fortunately

the attacks are my only really debilitating symptom . . my cognitive abilities, balance etc. seem fully intact. So light, reading, computer screens etc.are

not my triggers; emotional stressors are. Thoush I ask: are reading and internet activity tiring to the brain?

Like several of you, hope dimmed for me because last week (5th) I seem to have gotten worse.

I've read a lot of Mark's incredible advice and I wonder if my normal routine of eating but once a day--which I have done for decades--might be an

impediment--though my diet is excellent, except I don't need that much food!--for I notice my brain seems generally weaker late (afternoons;I eat at 3 pm) in

the cycle. Or, if I should perhaps shut down more, like many of you are learning to do. Would being very skinny mean one better eat more throughout the

day? I did eat more often until last week and I didn't notice any difference. I read that periods of fasting help build BDNF.

I live alone in a big house. I used to be fine alone a lot, but now I see what they mean when they say friends and family are important.

My internet service is poor so I will respond if needed but not with lightning promptness. Take care all of you.

JBuckl 02-09-2016 11:26 AM

Edited original to read easier
 
Many of us are on a similar journey.

Mine began January 3rd when I overheated in a bath I routinely take for hemorrhoids. I fainted and struck my forehead on something. I wasn't out very long,seconds perhaps; though dizzy and nauseous (like being intoxicated) I managed to resume my routine and get to bed telling myself everything will be OK.Like most American workaholics, I continued working my fairly physically demanding job of diving dumpsters etc. collecting and selling recyclables. Note that dumpster diving often has one inverting oneself: it is normal to nearly black out upon returning to upright if you do it quickly.

I also continued thehot baths and came a little close to overheating again a few times. I did not quite feel like everything was OK though my body seemed to function normally: mild headaches and swelling, both in the ears(which I think I already had) and, seemingly, in the cranium, at night, and relapses ofthe dizziness and nausea throughout the first week. I was also hamnmered with nasty cold weather that week; rough.As always, I "pushed through" it.

The original symptoms faded by the second week but a new set of symptoms crept up on me, as I still continued working a full schedule and "pushing through":
a kind of jelly leg feeling, arms too occasionally, increasing irritability and inability to handle all the little stressful things I normally deal with in a day. Although actually there was some sign of this early, in the first week, but I don't remember as much of it.

Monday the 1st day of week three (MLK Day), I guess I'd have to say my nerves broke down. The very minute I started my route I felt tense and anxious; after
my run (part of the route) it got worse, especially suffering the cold weather I could feel my high blood pressure(bp), though I didn't know that's what it was, my head unusually explosive during a dive, slightly faint; finally I realized something is really wrong. Turns out by bp was FIFTY units higher than my usual excellent level (I'm healthy and fit). It came back down as the day progressed and I still finished my route, puzzled that my actual body performance did not seem to agree with how I felt.

Since then, as I write just past the 5th week, I have not done any full routes, just occasional walking or light work interspersed with days not even venturing out of the house. The hot baths are carefully controlled with a thermometer. On Saturday of the 4th week I suffered another CONK! on the top of the head by a recycling bin lid that the wind blew open at a most inopportune time. I'm not sure if that made my problem worse, it was not a stunning blow, but the following week I did suffer from my first anxiety attack (Th. afternoon), abnormal bp elevation and all, since MLK Day, plus another close call to an attack (Sa.)

Anxiety attacks have this odd property of increasing my blood pressure but my pulse doesn't go with it (so, not a panic attack, but these are awful too: you lose desire for food, things become deadly serious, nothing is funny, nothing interesting; often feels like a life deciding moment is coming up and nothing else matters. Then I think about it and just stress me out even further--a vicious cycle.)

I come into this with preexisting conditions. My own personality plays a role in what I'm suffering, I suspect. I'm an anxious person by nature. I've had a phobia of heights and travel for decades; I've suffered depression and panic attacks (I like to call DPA), though not in recent years until all this. I have bad habits of hyper-focusing on symptoms, too much looking for negatives, and tend to push myself too hard sometimes, like a lot of Americans. Two of my siblings are on anti-depressants; conversations with a third convince me she has anxiety and hyper-focus issues as well.There's also lots of stressful things preceding my mtbi . . and my current disorder bears a striking resemblance to all the krap I had just gone through.

First there was the stress of trying to care for my ailing mom, several months. Then depression and sadness following her passing in August. Then a harrowing encounter with not-that-great medical care in a small town. During this period my bp was moderately elevated and I suffered a lot of anxiety. That got resolved but my relief was soon ended by a lot of anxiety about my inability to get a colonoscopy . . That gradually faded, but then the hemorrhoids that had been developing since October got bad enough that I had to stop this one exercise I was doing for my psoas muscle. . and I was depressed and fearful over that, for I regarded the hemmorhoids as a threat to my work and I didn't want to do anything surgical. This is what brought on the hot baths, which btw have so far been pretty effective.

The difference between now and before is that before, I could handle it, and my anxiety or depression was natural, justified. Now, when my brain tires, very much like what many of you report, I can't handle it. I get impatient, irritable, almost childish . . and realize how many little stressful things we deal with normally (cf. MissMarch1978's posts). Now I'm vulnerable to attacks which seem senseless, random, almost motivated by some unseen entity. Fortunately the attacks are my only really debilitating symptom . . my cognitive abilities, balance etc. seem fully intact. So light, reading, computer screens etc.are
not my triggers; emotional stressors are. Thoush I ask: are reading and internet activity tiring to the brain?

Like several of you, hope dimmed for me because last week (5th) I seem to have gotten worse.I've read a lot of Mark's incredible advice and I wonder if my normal routine of eating but once a day--which I have done for decades--might be an
impediment--though my diet is excellent, except I don't need that much food!--for I notice my brain seems generally weaker late (afternoons;I eat at 3 pm) in
the cycle. Or, if I should perhaps shut down more, like many of you are learning to do. Would being very skinny mean one better eat more throughout the
day? I did eat more often until last week and I didn't notice any difference. I read that periods of fasting help build BDNF.
I live alone in a big house. I used to be fine alone a lot, but now I see what they mean when they say friends and family are important.
My internet service is poor so I will respond if needed but not with lightning promptness. Take care all of you.

Mark in Idaho 02-09-2016 12:04 PM

This thread could be titled, "Our journey through War and Peace." LOL

My only comment to the OP, brownehn, is to get some coconut oil and eat some before bed and when you get up. Your time spent in a fasting state can leave your brain seeking energy. The MCT's in coconut oil may help fill that need.

btw, I could not read the entire first post. My brain finally crashed trying to read with all of the double spacing. I had to finish by skim reading looking for key words.

brownehn 02-09-2016 02:12 PM

Hello, Mark. Sorry for the crammed post, I was just hoping someone would notice something important in the details. The formatting looks a bit screwed up, don't know quite how that happened.

Mark in Idaho 02-09-2016 09:48 PM

If you could repost just the facts without the complex play by play, I'll try to sort through it. I have a hard time finding what symptoms you are struggling with besides anxiety and OCD. So, sort out your symptoms and struggles and I'll give it a try.

brownehn 02-10-2016 05:03 PM

Symptoms:anxiety;"jelly" legs,weak arms;mild oversensitivity to light and loud sounds.Difficulty handling (ie,I become anxious or irritable;sometimes blood pressure goes up) even small stressful thoughts ,having to make choices among competing desirables, and stressful physical situations like cold weather. All symptoms are sporadic and can be at least somewhat ameliorated by shutting down. Lately I suddenly became my normal self(?!) out of nowhere but then became somewhat manic that night and failed to complete my sleep.

Mark in Idaho 02-10-2016 08:03 PM

brownehn,

My first concern is that you need to start eating regular healthy meals so you blood sugar stays were it belongs. This will be helpful to your anxiety. I know what this is about because I was a 1 & 1/2 meals a day person in the 70's. It messed up my blood sugars and left me with roller coaster moods.

Second, read the Vitamins sticky at the top. Add the vitamins regimen. It will help with anxiety and depression but it will take time.

Once those issues are resolved, the other issues will likely be much less and easy to tolerate. Do not try to resolve more than one problem at a time. Live a binary life. Each choice/decision is best broken down into one of two options. Write the options down and list out the pros and cons. This will help you make decisions with less anxiety.

This is enough to start you one the road to a more functional life.

brownehn 02-11-2016 01:46 PM

Our Journey Together - better formatting (I hope)
 
This is a redo of "Our Journey Together".

Many of us are on a similar journey.

Mine began January 3rd when I overheated in a bath I routinely take for hemorrhoids. I fainted and struck my forehead on something. I wasn't out very long,seconds perhaps; though dizzy and nauseous (like being intoxicated) I managed to resume my routine and get to bed telling myself everything will be OK.

Like most American workaholics, I continued working my fairly physically demanding job of diving dumpsters etc. collecting and selling recyclables. Note that dumpster diving often has one inverting oneself: it is normal to nearly black out upon returning to upright if you do it quickly. I also continued the hot baths and came a little close to overheating again a few times. I did not quite feel like everything was OK though my body seemed to function normally: mild headaches and swelling, both in the ears(which I think I already had) and, seemingly, in the cranium, at night, and relapses of the dizziness and nausea throughout the first week. I was also hamnmered with nasty cold weather that week; rough. As always, I "pushed through" it.

The original symptoms faded by the second week but a new set of symptoms crept up on me, as I still continued working a full schedule and "pushing through": a kind of jelly leg feeling, arms too occasionally, increasing irritability and inability to handle all the little stressful things I normally deal with in a day. Although actually there was some sign of this early, in the first week, but I don't remember as much of it.

Monday the 1st day of week three (MLK Day), I guess I'd have to say my nerves broke down. The very minute I started my route I felt tense and anxious; after my run (part of the route) it got worse, especially suffering the cold weather I could feel my high blood pressure(bp), though I didn't know that's what it was, my head unusually explosive during a dive, slightly faint; finally I realized something is really wrong. Turns out by bp was FIFTY units higher than my usual excellent level (I'm healthy and fit). It came back down as the day progressed and I still finished my route, puzzled that my actual body performance did not seem to agree with how I felt.

Since then, as I write just past the 5th week, I have not done any full routes, just occasional walking or light work interspersed with days not even venturing out of the house. The hot baths are carefully controlled with a thermometer. On Saturday of the 4th week I suffered another CONK! on the top of the head by a recycling bin lid that the wind blew open at a most inopportune time. I'm not sure if that made my problem worse, it was not a stunning blow, but the following week I did suffer from my first anxiety attack (Th. afternoon), abnormal bp elevation and all, since MLK Day, plus another close call to an attack (Sa.) Anxiety attacks have this odd property of increasing my blood pressure but my pulse doesn't go with it (so, not a panic attack, but these are awful too: you lose desire for food, things become deadly serious, nothing is funny, nothing interesting; often feels like a life deciding moment is coming up and nothing else matters. Then I think about it and just stress me out even further--a vicious cycle.)

I come into this with preexisting conditions. My own personality plays a role in what I'm suffering, I suspect. I'm an anxious person by nature. I've had a phobia of heights and travel for decades; I've suffered depression and panic attacks (I like to call DPA), though not in recent years until all this. I have bad habits of hyper-focusing on symptoms, too much looking for negatives, and tend to push myself too hard sometimes, like a lot of Americans. Two of my siblings are on anti-depressants; conversations with a third convince me she has anxiety and hyper-focus issues as well.

There's also lots of stressful things preceding my mtbi . . and my current disorder bears a striking resemblance to all the krap I had just gone through. First there was the stress of trying to care for my ailing mom, several months. Then depression and sadness following her passing in August. Then a harrowing encounter with not-that-great medical care in a small town. During this period my bp was moderately elevated and I suffered a lot of anxiety. That got resolved but my relief was soon ended by a lot of anxiety about my inability to get a colonoscopy . . That gradually faded, but then the hemorrhoids that had been developing since October got bad enough that I had to stop this one exercise I was doing for my psoas muscle. . and I was depressed and fearful over that, for I regarded the hemmorhoids as a threat to my work and I didn't want to do anything surgical. This is what brought on the hot baths, which btw have so far been pretty effective.

The difference between now and before is that before, I could handle it, and my anxiety or depression was natural, justified. Now, when my brain tires, very much like what many of you report, I can't handle it. I get impatient, irritable, almost childish . . and realize how many little stressful things we deal with normally (cf. MissMarch1978's posts). Now I'm vulnerable to attacks which seem senseless, random, almost motivated by some unseen entity. Fortunately the attacks are my only really debilitating symptom . . my cognitive abilities, balance etc. seem fully intact. So light, reading, computer screens etc.are not my triggers; emotional stressors are. Thoush I ask: are reading and internet activity tiring to the brain?

Like several of you, hope dimmed for me because last week (5th) I seem to have gotten worse.

I've read a lot of Mark's incredible advice and I wonder if my normal routine of eating but once a day--which I have done for decades--might be an impediment--though my diet is excellent, except I don't need that much food!--for I notice my brain seems generally weaker late (afternoons;I eat at 3 pm) in the cycle. Or, if I should perhaps shut down more, like many of you are learning to do. Would being very skinny mean one better eat more throughout the day? I did eat more often until last week and I didn't notice any difference. I read that periods of fasting help build BDNF.

I live alone in a big house. I used to be fine alone a lot, but now I see what they mean when they say friends and family are important.

My internet service is poor so I will respond if needed but not with lightning promptness. Take care all of you.

Jomar 02-11-2016 02:00 PM

I merged the new formatted version into this original thread.

brownehn 02-11-2016 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1198489)
brownehn,

My first concern is that you need to start eating regular healthy meals so you blood sugar stays were it belongs. This will be helpful to your anxiety. I know what this is about because I was a 1 & 1/2 meals a day person in the 70's. It messed up my blood sugars and left me with roller coaster moods.

Second, read the Vitamins sticky at the top. Add the vitamins regimen. It will help with anxiety and depression but it will take time.

Once those issues are resolved, the other issues will likely be much less and easy to tolerate. Do not try to resolve more than one problem at a time. Live a binary life. Each choice/decision is best broken down into one of two options. Write the options down and list out the pros and cons. This will help you make decisions with less anxiety.

This is enough to start you one the road to a more functional life.

This touches on something important, I think. For decades I have strictly controlled my eating, just one major meal toward the end of the day, and until lately, with a lot of physical activity too. I've only taken two blood glucose readings (I can't get the ~!@#$ needle to work right) during my crisis, but they're both good - 90s - and that's late in my cycle (ie approaching the meal).

Yet I've always suspected that my brain gets shut down as the cycle grinds toward the meal. It gets harder to concentrate, dizzy spells occasionally, need to rest, etc. Or maybe it's my whole body. This isn't your typical practice, I love being skinny and there are health benefits. Lately I ate more on two days; I notice an abundance of energy early in the cycle, Tu. I was almost manic but I felt normal and good . . then last night I cut it back. Today I'm in the throes of the worst anxiety yet . .

It's too soon to draw conclusions, but maybe my eating has something to do with it . .

Mark in Idaho 02-11-2016 05:50 PM

Eating one big meal a day is not why you are skinny. That is due to the calories you consume and are able to absorb. You can be healthy skinny eating three meals a day. I am surprised you do not have a distended liver from 'famine syndrome' The body can only use 'active' food for about 7 or 8 hours. After that, it has to start pulling calories from the liver. When meals are far apart, the body starts storing more food in the liver and using less for active needs.

Why do you have a glucometer ?

When I was not eating right, my mood and cognitive skills roller coastered through the day. My diet was a donut and milk for breakfast then a late dinner. My doc said I was cycling wildly because of the sugar in response to famine.

Based on your condition, you are not achieving any health benefits of being skinny. Health benefits come more from what you eat than how much you don't eat or how skinny you are. Society has it wrong. Dr Oz has it wrong.

If you can eat one healthy meal, save half of it for your next meal.

Jelly legs is a good sign of low blood sugar.

brownehn 02-11-2016 07:14 PM

Yikes
 
I'm all ears, believe me . . but help me understand. I've done my one-meal way for decades--I never had jelly legs or this sort of uncontrollable anxiety (sure looks like I'm at GAD as of today), and my brain was allright most of the cycle, it's only been since my injury Jan. 3rd. Is it really that much better to keep those 'free-floating' calories available throughout? Or maybe it's too easy to come up short on the calories with one meal . .

Bud 02-11-2016 11:56 PM

Brown,

Better start eating regularly based on my experience.

I need energy going.

I have skipped/ forgotten lunch/ didn't want to take time to eat lunch for most of my adult life but it is quite detrimental to me now. On the days I go back to my old habit I can sure tell.

Basically what I think is with pcs many routine habits affect us quite differently. The art of dealing with it is making the necessary changes for optimum health.

Bud

Mark in Idaho 02-12-2016 04:12 AM

brownehm,

The concussed brain is far less tolerant of any kind of stress. Food energy is a key factor in helping the brain function during stress.

I rarely have any sensation of hunger. I have not felt true hunger since I was 15 or so.

I eat for two reasons:

Discipline, I know I function better when I eat regular meals, especially breakfast.

I am crashing and I can tell I need food energy to get my brain out of the crash. Some times, the crash has not happened but I recognize it is coming. It is very subtle. A banana, an apple, a small cup of rolled oats with raisins and maybe a dozen dark chocolate chips, a slice of cheese and some crackers, etc.

I find 150 to 200 calories will pick me up out of a cognitive funk in about 20 minutes or so.

I also eat so I can sleep. The brain consumes a lot of calories during sleep. Some of us have to be discipline to feed our brains so we can get the proper restorative sleep we need. I have dinner at 5 to 6 and by 12, I need food energy. So, I have 200 calories and can sleep through the night. I wake up 7 or 8 hours later because I need more food energy.

The human body needs a meal about ever 8 hours.

Just because you could break this rule does not mean you can now that your brain has been injured.

I am 5'11" and weight 160 pounds. I was 149 pounds 2 years ago. I was gaunt. My doctor told me to gain some weight.

brownehn 02-12-2016 07:35 AM

Wow
 
Guys, that is AMAZING. You make an excellent case . . And of course Mark, sleep is extremely important but especially to guys like us. I will post later on how this turns out. But as I look back over events, it seems very,very possible you have something. After a wonderful rest last night (I guess I came down for some reason--if you ever want to die, this is a good way to go), I start this morning off with a bizaare combination of relief, optimism, fear (of another attack), and shakiness . . it feels like my body has flip-flopped from a state of high alert to a kind of sweet crash. Unstable, is what it is . .

brownehn 02-21-2016 04:45 PM

Update - Seven Weeks
 
It does seem to be a slow evolution, with no two weeks exactly alike and most symptoms coming, going, or changing . .

There is a striking difference between symptoms before and after the *SMACK* on the head at the end of Week Four (see my baseline; perhaps I should start the weeks over with the *smack*.) Weeks Five and Six were rocked by mood instability resembling bipolar disorder, with high anxiety on one end and calmness and tranquility on the other. My own personality is part of it. It seemed like just when I thought I was moving in the right direction something bad would happen (I'm afraid to say I'm improving for fear I'll jinx myself.)

First big question: what are the triggers? One theory is: almost everything--with key activities worse than the others. Your brain is involved in 99.9 percent of anything you do. The more demanding the task, the greater the workload. Sight, light, conversations, motor activity . . reading . . keep adding 'em up over the hours, and you have a trigger--according to this theory. Most weeks I thought just staying home would be enough. But maybe not, because I usually crowd every waking moment with lots of reading, thinking, and probably emote-ing[?]--and that stuff evidently burns up a lot of glucose too. I wonder if TBI sufferers should shut down regularly. I seem better--like a recharged battery--when I shut down in some way, including falling asleep. I wonder if being active, or even conscious, the full normal 16 hours per day is deleterious to recovery. Activities I'm not sure I should do: walking/exercise; maybe my hot baths (I've already asked in a separate thread); my morning stretch etc. routine maybe?; getting overly emotional . .

I changed my dietary pattern: now I eat round the clock, including a quickie in the middle of the night; plus most of the nutrients in our Sticky. At first I almost jumped to the conclusion, This is It!--and I seem to experience what Mark described. But it isn't the whole story. It does seem to keep me more stable. One down side is I get SO much energy my obsessiveness is more prone to take off and I get a little more restless at night.

Next intriguing question: what are the best ways to shut down? And how many hours should you give up? Mark says 'gentle stimulation', which I think means doing things with your hands. But maybe also: meditation, if you know how; watching TV or listening to radio that isn't too mentally challenging; yoga?--how about lying with your cats staring at the ceiling. My favorite so far is lying still, eyes usually covered, relaxing . .and falling into a deeply relaxed state, which I think might be the parasympathetic nervous system taking over, but I usually also fall asleep. These are wonderful but this might be shutting down a little too far?

Food for thought guys.

brownehn 03-06-2016 05:07 PM

Update - Two Months
 
It's been rough. Weeks 5 through 8--the weeks following the second blow to my head--I would rather just forget. I stopped keeping a detailed journal. It seemed fruitless trying to figure exactly what is going on; seems like a lot of it is garbage that was inevitable no matter what I did, once I got that second blow to the head, even though it wasn't obvious things were getting better otherwise. It seems I'm going through a process independent of triggers, that is, the only effects I can have on what I'm experiencing are marginal. (About all I accomplished was good diet--see previous update.) I go through dramatic --and it sometimes appears that so are some of our posters--changes in mood and attitude, for example high anxiety for maybe a day, then a period of calm sweet tranquility. Week 8 began something similar with the sleep cycle. Some days it's difficult to fall and stay asleep, and I generally get uneasy as the day nears its end, as if I can't really accept the day is over or lost or something; other days I sleep well but maybe have a little trouble resisting still more, which I don't see why I would need, during the day. Some periods I lack curiosity, make careless mistakes, and feel like avoiding things; others, I'm insatiable for information, pretty much my old self, but occasionally swing to another extreme like aching to get out and do something with my life. Looking back, these feelings and thoughts seem disconnected with reality, like they're just running on their own out of nowhere. This scary symptom-- widely reported by people with brain damage--and really my only major symptom--is to me an existential threat, for the core of my being is my feelings . .

brownehn 04-10-2016 10:02 AM

Update - Three Months
 
(April 3 - also 9 Weeks 1 Day since second injury) Not good. Oldest symptoms are slowly fading, but I've become an insomniac. It started slowly as my physical exercise wound down to zero, then midway through the 10th Week became a regular struggle. I can no longer count on powerful sleep to take hold at the early (630 pm or so) hour I'm used to bedding down. Worse, this freaked me out badly at first. I would often have anxiety attacks so bad I could not sit still, unable to accept what was happening. Twice I drove to the emergency room (worthless) in the dead hours of the night and one night I failed to get to sleep until the sun started coming up. The only thing helping is good medication. Antihistamines are good for anxiety attacks while lorazepam (Ativan) is good for sleep.

I think my drastic loss of exercise and increasing age have greatly reduced my sleep drive. I actually only need about 5 hours living this listless life--of course it would be more if I were doing all my former work. Probably also I'm reverting to an 'owl' with my awake drive is still strong for several hours after sundown.

I'm really hurt by this--sleep used to be my sweet (and reliable) escape. My bad attitude makes me prone to anxiety, although severe anxiety seems to be fading . . I got a CT scan which was of course negative. Not great medical help available in this area; I'm still far from my first appointment with a psych (May 11.)

I won't be on the forum as much as I get down very easily though I still think communicating with some of you guys would be good. Take care everyone.

brownehn 07-15-2016 03:29 PM

Update - 6 Months
 
My story shows how even a minor concussion can wreak outsized havoc.

(roughly July 3; 5 months 3 days since the last blow to my head.) CT scan was negative.

Struggling with insomnia, I became increasingly physically dependent on the lorazepam; and it has a lot of side effects that I got tired of. Then they were going to cut me off. Fortunately I got to taper myself off (do not suddenly stop taking a benzodiazepine if you've been on it for at least 4 weeks!) Now seeing two professionals, one a therapist, the other a full-blown MD, though the latter only for forty minutes so far. Haven't yet gotten anything good out of 'em. Quality medical care is scarce in this small isolated town.

Getting off the lorazepam has dumped a host of new problems but also deprived me of a powerful tool for sleeping and anxiety: lorazepam was my 'go-to' pill for bedtime (I still like diphenhydramine occasionally take this Valerian root concoction with other herbs) and, without that now, I've re-developed the typical insomniac's aversion to their own bed and bedtime. A good book on the subject is Greg Jacobs' Say Goodnight to Insomnia.
I've developed this bizaare symptom and situation. The lorazepam always left me sleepy during the day. As I tapered off, I was also re-building my abundant exercise level. The daytime sleepiness got more irresistible even as lorazepam was going away (it's the exercise evidently.) I cannot relax without real likelihodd of drifting off, although it's not bad if I keep myself busy. But I DON'T want to nap during the day. Yet, when the sun goes down, or I transition to bedtime in some way, suddenly the sleepiness goes away and I have trouble going to sleep--at least it gets a lot harder! Go figure. Kind of depressing.

I'm not entirely free of out-of-nowhere anxiety and mood swings. This feeds the insomnia. There's hope: I've had a lot of good and acceptable days but bad days seem to be here at least for a while. But the mood swings and especially the oldest symptoms do seem to slowly move into the past.
Meanwhile I'm trying to restructure my attitude; there's a LOT of stuff one can do. Negativity, though a survival trait, does not get along with PCS or insomnia. As many of you know.

It'll be interesting to check the site. Been away, very busy, for a while. Hope everyone is doing at least reasonable. I will be on the site more in the future.

brownehn 05-19-2017 05:58 PM

Update - 1 Year
 
Greetings. I haven't been on this site in a while. My internet service got so bad I was essentially offline for months. Also I developed an aversion toward things that remind me of illness, including this site even though I like reading others' stories etc. Then, luckily, a new telecom company moved into the area so now at least I can get on at home whenever I want.

I tapered successfully off the lorazepam. July 1st was my first true zero day. I was in good spirits, though my moods would wobble from time to time and my sleep was erratic. But on the 13th for some reason it all collapsed: self-feeding anxiety attacks when trying to sleep. The rest of July and August 1st were as miserable as any time in my life. Since then my daily routine has been strictly limited to staying home except for essential errands--lying around a lot, trying to meditate etc. And still taking those hot baths that ironically led to my accident January 3rd last year.

Luckily a new doctor I finally got to see after months of waiting prescribed me clonazepam (Klonopin) and sertraline (Zoloft.) At first, believe it or not, I didn't intend taking either one of them except maybe clonazepam in a crisis. Well, by Monday August 1st I changed my mind. I started the clonazepam in the middle of that night and sertraline the next day. Over the ensuing months I found the clonazepam remarkably gentle and even more effective than the lorazepam (0.5 mg is equal in strength to 10 mg Valium). The sertraline acted slowly and the dose had to be increased. On December 22, after steady improvement and increases over preceding months, I started 150 mg. I seem to get better and better as dosage increases--side effects notwithstanding. As of now the only side effects remaining are watery blood and maybe a little sexual dysfunction . .One measure I watch closely is how much clonazepam I need to take to get to sleep, charted daily on a calendar. A good day uses only the baseline dose, just under a quarter tablet (about 1/8th mg).

During this period I learned cognitive behavioral and dialetical behavioral techniques (CBT and DBT), including mindfulness (Vipassana?) meditation. I also rebuilt my long-distance walking (but no more recycling). I cover about 49 miles a week! It pays to be in great shape.

Already this is out of date. I hope to be at the site more in the future and see how everyone else is doing etc. There is much to share.:)

brownehn 08-10-2017 04:44 PM

18 Months
 
I knew I was improving as I increased the dose of Zoloft, but after I reached 150 mg./day, in late December, I seemed to break through: I started having dramatically increased streaks of days without problems getting to sleep. On such nights I had to increase my clonazepam dose. Spontaneous bouts of anxiety faded. I began feeling good about things. My sense of humor returned--at last the future looked bright. After February, each succeeding month was even better than the last, but I still had mild relapses from time to time. My wounded confidence demanded that I get back to 100 percent before I moved on.

Then my second doctor told me I needed to increase my daily dose of clonazepam. I understood his reasoning--I was still taking it, but a low dose, about .115 mg.--but I doubted it would work; but I figured, either he's got something or prove him wrong. So in April I ramped up to over a quarter mg. and held it for a month. Meanwhile the other doctor was ******--he wanted me to (eventually) get OFF the clonazepam.

But wouldn't you know it, near the end of the highest dose, I DID improve more; I put myself at 90+ percent. Slowly, I tapered the dose, but the weather got hot and I slowed it further, last summer's ordeal still fresh in memory. As of July 3rd (my 18 month 'anniversary') I was still at my old baseline dose.

The journey continues . .

brownehn 01-31-2018 06:17 PM

2 Years
 
2017 was a good year. It's likely I recovered somewhere in the 13th, 14th, 15th month maybe. I took things slowly at first, using '17 mostly for observation. I'm now off the clonazepam, but still on Zoloft, and seeing just one doctor. I'm trying to get back to my life, only I find I'll have to start anew, as I've decided not to go back to my recycling business. I'd like to determine if I still need the Zoloft, but I'll be facing stressful situations--money,family--so I figure that experiment should be postponed.

Having a sense of humor makes life worth living. It's so important, it may even surpass love or money or family or fame. Those of you feeling down, let me tell you, our emotional state defines the world in which we live . . and, if you've had TBI and you're down or lacking confidence or even hope, question it with everything you've got, for it's well-documented that TBI tips emotions in the direction of anxiety, depression, or anger--and it's fake . . I see a lot of anxious-looking posts around here.

The first thing you might want to work on is what they call coping skills: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) are the two most widely used. These are only to get you through the day (or night), though . . not cures.

brownehn 12-01-2019 04:23 PM

3 Years
 
I am now tapering the Zoloft. . . I am doing quite well. It won't be long before I'm down to zero . .

I hope I'm doing this right -- I forget how to add another entry . .


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