Migration from Win7 to Win10
 

My old laptop (running under Win7) died so I had to get a new one running under Win10.

So far I am impressed - it found my WiFi router quickly though it was just as well that I had written down its access code. It also let me install my legal copy of MS Office with no pain. Installing Chrome as a browser was not problem.

The only outstanding issue is that it did not like it when I installed Thunderbird (my preferred email client), I think because (duh...) I did not write down the Thunderbird password that my ISP gave me - I have contacted them using a temporary gmail account about this.

So far, so good.

Your ISP gave you a password for Thunderbird?? :confused:
Is it a password to open the Thunderbird program, or is it the password to access your pop email account?

I've used Tbird for years, and no ISP ever gave me a password...I chose my own, for the master program access and my pop email accounts..

When you get Tbird all set up and your favorite browser too, you can copy & save/back up your profiles for each and save them to a usb flash drive or such.

It is so easy to have the back up profiles in case of a crash & reinstall, or new machine..
how to - profiles
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-tb

If you can access files on the old hard drive you might be able rescue the profiles on it. Did the old hard drive fail or something else on the old laptop?

Thanks Jo*mar.

I chose a password to access my Tbird accounts but stupidly did not save it on any other device. With luck my ISP can sort this for me. I have saved my Tbird profile in the usual format (alphabet soup.default) on my external HD and can see all of my old messages there. Once the password problem is solved I should be able to reinstall it as it was before.

The old laptop died because of a fatal HD crash. Fortunately the important stuff was backed up on my external HD so I have been able to put everything back on this one.

Make sure you create an offline account with Windows 10. If you should ever be without internet access, you will not be able to log on to your computer without an offline account. I am not sure if this is still a problem or not, but when I tried Window 10 last year, I had a hard time accessing my files on my laptop when our internet was down for a short time.

I eventually went back to 7. Window 10 ran a little too slow on my old out of date laptop. Hope it works well for you.

Thanks for the tip Alaina - just in case I have made an off-line account.

Your saved passwords should be in the old profile... the Master & the email words..
Unless you didn't save them in the Tbird program and typed them in each time?

I’ve done this many times with trying out various Linux distros..and past Windows crashes, when I still used Windows.
How to import your old profile into the new Tbrid program....

Install fresh newest version of Tbird from Mozilla - click to open it, when the screen to add email account or make one comes up, just close the program.
plug in external drive or a flash drive so you can access the old saved profile.

this is easier that me typing it all out-
[ Note: If you just installed Thunderbird on a new computer, you can use the default profile that is automatically created when you first run Thunderbird, instead of creating a new profile.
Locate the backed up profile folder on your hard drive or backup medium (e.g., your USB-stick).
Open the profile folder backup (e.g., the xxxxxxxx.default backup).
Copy the entire contents of the profile folder backup, such as the mimeTypes.rdf file, prefs.js file, bookmarkbackups folder, etc.
Locate and open the new profile folder as explained above and then close Thunderbird (if open).
Paste the contents of the backed up profile folder into the new profile folder, overwriting existing files of the same name.
Start Thunderbird. ]
full details here- https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-tb

But if it is the Master Password to open the Tbird program, and you forgot it, I believe you can find the certain file and delete it so no password , then you can make a new password..

[Forgotten Password (Tbird)

If you have lost or forgotten your master password or you want to disable the feature, you can reset the master password. Resetting the master password will remove all stored password information. Upon resetting, you will lose all the stored information in the Password Manager, as this is a built-in security feature to prevent people from simply resetting your Master Password to gain access to your passwords.

Choose Tools -> Error Console
Paste the expression
openDialog("chrome://pippki/content/resetpassword.xul")
Press the Evaluate button.
Accept when prompted with the confirmation dialog box. ]
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...aster-password

If you do that , you will still have your backup files accessible to replace passwords to the email account/s , if you don't have them memorised..or written down..

If those ideas don't help, them I am totally confused about what password you need.. :o

Thanks Jo*mar - that is very helpful and detailed information which I appreciate.

is this thread only for Thunderbird users and Win 10?

Does this Win 10 potential affect those who do not have
Thunderbird?

Mrs D

Most of what is being discussed on this thread is for Thunderbird, and how to reset passwords to be able to log back in to your Thunderbird account. My short post is about setting an offline password was for Windows 10 only, nothing to do with Thunderbird, and I am sure that makes things a little confusing. I am sorry about that. I hope that helps a little more.

Oh, okay,, thanks. I am not very computer savvy...so I really didn't understand what was going on here. I am a bit paranoid about Win 10 still, as some of the updates, and the original download, blocked my graphics program (Corel/Jasc). We have had to reinstall it now 3 times!

On the Corel installing problem -
How does it block it? Does it give an error message or some pop message comes up?
Do you have the corel on a old CD/DVD ,or were you downloading the current version from the website to install?

If an older version on disc , that might be an issue.
But you should be able to download the newer version and use your product key if it is a previously purchased program. *Sometimes they do want you to pay , usually a discounted price for the newer/upgraded program, if your version is many years old.

I have the original disc for the program.

It dies totally... won't load from the icon at all, when it happens.
It doesn't die, from smaller updates. That huge last one about a month or so ago, killed it for the 3rd time.

It is a an old program but I like it and it is easy for me to use.

http://www.corel.com/content/vpk/psp...ewer_Guide.pdf

Lots of info comes up so it must be happening for many users...
you might find some fixes/ tips/ideas in the links-
https://www.google.com/search?q=pain...in+10+problems

I found a Corel forum recently with lots of comments. Main opinion is that older programs don't work.

Mine is pretty old, and as long as we reinstall it, it seems to come alive again. I just hope the updates don't kill it too often... sigh.

Thanks, Jo.

We asked our son about this originally posted problem with Thunderbird... and this is what he said:

"The problem appears to come up when you use a Microsoft online account as your login account. There are two options: doing that, and logging in locally only.
I'm going to guess you guys (my hubby and I) set it up locally only, since you don't have any Microsoft online accounts.
You can see how to check and set it to a local account here:" http://www.howtogeek.com/230543/how-...re-hijacks-it/

This seems to me that you can CHANGE your account to local, and then therefore you can use your computer when IP is not connected.

This thread has really been a big learning experience for ME that is for sure! ;)

Ugh that all sounds like such a pain. Win XP was so nice, but none of these new Win versions since then tempt me at all..

I guess I’m not surprised MS tries to get you to make an account with them.. more loss of personal privacy...sheesh

If the Corel problems get too be much hassle , there are free open source programs that are nearly the same..You would have to look at the sites and see screen shots probably , to find the one that matches the best , if you decide to try that route.


found this one-
[with the release of 2.8, Gimpshop has become preferred software for photo & image editing among more professionals than ever. Layers, channels, masks, filters, levels, advanced pattern matching—the remarkable feature list of Gimp is equal to Photoshop in every way except one: the price. Restore, touch up and manipulate photos, create complex animations, or just use Gimpshop as a simple paint program. ]
https://www.gimpshop.com/

That looks good, Jo.... Hubby was going to buy me a new one soon...but I am resisting that.

This gimp one might be possible for me. ;)

ok folks what is Thunderbird

Thunderbird is Mozilla's, (maker of Firefox browser), email software. I believe they also do scheduling, and contact information as well, but I have not used it in years, so I do not remember.

It's an email program. It will bring your email to your computer, so you don't have to log in online at a website. You can also save your emails in the program on your own computer instead of only online. Or you can save emails both ways..depending on how you set it up.
more info-
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

Top 11 Free Email Programs for Windows
http://email.about.com/od/windowsema...email_prog.htm

I am still waiting for my ISP to let me know what the password is for my Tbird account (I don't see why this should be hard) - I will hassle them again after Easter. In the meantime I have modified it so all new messages which arrive there get automatically forwarded to my Gmail account and then get deleted from it. This works - today the standard "There is a new post in a NT thread that you have contributed to." advisories appeared in my Gmail account.

The other thing that I have learned through trial and error is that System Restore is not the same in Win10 as it is in Win7. In Win7 it just removes new programs and program updates but does not touch new datafiles but in Win10 it removes new datafiles as well. Grrr...

Everything was backed up on my external HD so I spent a tedious few hours putting everything back.

That's a long time to wait for a response from an ISP..:(
[ Tbird account ] ??
This is confusing to me. The Tbird program has a master password option - but your ISP wouldn't have that , it is only on your computer when you install Tbird and set a master password..( if you have to type a password to open access to the program.).

So I'm thinking you are calling it Tbird account password... but it is the password for your email account @ISP?? to get the pop mail into the Thunderbird program?
If that is the case, do they have a forgot password option on their website?

You didn't want to attempt the copy/paste from the old Tbird profile into the new installation of Tbird? It seems daunting the first time, but doing step by step it isn't so bad..

But it really will save you a lot of time & headache if it is only the email password you need, the old passwords and all saved emails are saved inside the old profile files..
Unless I am missing something...:o

how to find saved passwords in thunderbird
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...ird&gws_rd=ssl

My friend called me at 8AM and telling me Microsoft was attempting to download Win 10 and she does NOT want it. She's very content with Win 7 as am I. She was alerting me that I could be faced with this. So far not the case. I use the computer for so little and don't keep anything important on it. She on the other hand has worked with computers since the 60's but still does not want Win 10.

My partner has had similar issues - she is happy with Windows 7 though will probably have Windows 10 on her next new machine.

She found the information in this link helpful; http://www.cio.com/article/3048822/c...indows-10.html.

My friend has an extra laptop and going to install Win 10 to see how she likes it etc. For her desk top, she is happy with Win 7.

People hoping to continue with Win 7 should read this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/24527...abandoned.html

I really don't miss Windows at all...Linux OS's have improved /simplified so much from when I first started playing around with it :) The top distros are very close to looking & feeling like Windows XP.

Some info links for those that might want to explore Linux.

[What's the best Linux distro for beginners?
By Shashank Sharma & Nick Peers January 19, 2016Operating systems
If you're a Linux novice, you've come to the right place]
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/sof...nners--1213490

https://www.linux.com/news/best-linux-distros-2016

http://www.datamation.com/open-sourc...newcomers.html

http://lifehacker.com/5993297/ubuntu...-for-beginners

My fav is Mint Mate on desktop & Zorin Lite on the older laptops.

more info if interested-
https://distrowatch.com/

If you want to try some & don't know how to burn an ISO image to CD , there is site to order- approx 5.95 each...
Some Libraries have computer magazines or books that will have a Live bootable cd inside - you can run from your cd drive to see if you like it..