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soccertese 10-26-2016 08:56 AM

interesting youtube video by dr. barry snow, N.Z., overview, mentions trial of pig ce
 
mentions pig cell trial in N.Z.
Parkinson’s Auckland presents Dr Barry Snow - YouTube

describes history of pd implants, adrenal cells, eye cells, genes

lots of good basic info.

eds195 10-26-2016 03:26 PM

Thanks Soccert,

A lot of solid info and a realistic update on the pig cell transplants (near the 42/43 minute mark) that have showed early promise.....

Eric

soccertese 10-26-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eds195 (Post 1227332)
Thanks Soccert,

A lot of solid info and a realistic update on the pig cell transplants (near the 42/43 minute mark) that have showed early promise.....

Eric

he doesn't think the only procedure that has actually "cured" pd back in the 1990's, early 2000's, fetal neuron transplants, will ever get support even though new trials have been started in europe. he does work for LCT but didn't gloss over the placebo affect might contribute to their phase1 success as it did for many other failed trials in phase1.
he commented on the bad rap l-dopa has and says it isn't harmful and it's foolish to delay taking it, talks about alpha-synclein appearing in the intestine before pd symptoms occur, exercise an essential therapy, speculated why gdnf failed - brain needs a cocktail of nerve stimulating factors which the pig cells provide and gdnf is just one factor, mentions the need for volunteers in clinical trials. mentioned vaccine trial for alpha-synclein in austria, speculated might just be like opening a garbage bag, just dumping a lot of garbage in the cell. covered a lot of topics and i imagine not everyone totally agrees with his opinions

Niggs 11-02-2016 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 1227336)
he doesn't think the only procedure that has actually "cured" pd back in the 1990's, early 2000's, fetal neuron transplants, will ever get support even though new trials have been started in europe. he does work for LCT but didn't gloss over the placebo affect might contribute to their phase1 success as it did for many other failed trials in phase1.
he commented on the bad rap l-dopa has and says it isn't harmful and it's foolish to delay taking it, talks about alpha-synclein appearing in the intestine before pd symptoms occur, exercise an essential therapy, speculated why gdnf failed - brain needs a cocktail of nerve stimulating factors which the pig cells provide and gdnf is just one factor, mentions the need for volunteers in clinical trials. mentioned vaccine trial for alpha-synclein in austria, speculated might just be like opening a garbage bag, just dumping a lot of garbage in the cell. covered a lot of topics and i imagine not everyone totally agrees with his opinions

Thanks,

Great comprehensive info.

Time and again 'placebo effect' crops up and everybody goes ' Yep, it is a problem that stalls a lot of new therapies, shrug !' But we're talking about people's health improving, albeit short term, without any actual drugs being responsible ? Should this not be something worth investigating ? From a lay man's point of view it seems to me that you must have the tools to hand to be able to have a placebo effect ie access to a source of dopamine or something to be able to facilitate any improvement which begs the questions
how, what, where ? (same with paradoxical kinesia)

Tupelo3 11-02-2016 12:38 PM

Placebo effect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Niggs (Post 1227835)
Thanks,

Great comprehensive info.

Time and again 'placebo effect' crops up and everybody goes ' Yep, it is a problem that stalls a lot of new therapies, shrug !' But we're talking about people's health improving, albeit short term, without any actual drugs being responsible ? Should this not be something worth investigating ? From a lay man's point of view it seems to me that you must have the tools to hand to be able to have a placebo effect ie access to a source of dopamine or something to be able to facilitate any improvement which begs the questions
how, what, where ? (same with paradoxical kinesia)

A couple of interesting articles on the placebo effect:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/27/health...ain/index.html

Why Placebos Really Work: The Latest Science - WSJ


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