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curem 02-08-2017 03:45 AM

Zinc levels in Parkinson's patients much lower than healthy controls:
 
Zinc levels in Parkinson's patients much lower than healthy controls:

Association Between Serum Zinc Levels and the Risk of Parkinson's Disease: a Meta-Analysis. - PubMed - NCBI

johnt 02-08-2017 09:45 AM

A broader discussion of serum metal levels in PD can be found in a thread from 2012:

https://www.neurotalk.org/parkinson-...ight=aluminium

To quote from that thread:

Ahmed and Santosh [1] measured the serum levels of various metals in PD (n=45) and non-PD (n=42) people in South India.

They found that "Al [high in PwP], Cu [high], Fe [low], Mn [high] and Zn [low] were dominantly reponsible for the separation of PD from normal".

They went on to look at the correlation between metal ratios and PD: "Al/Cu, Al/Fe, Al/Mn, Al/Zn, Cu/Fe, Cu/Zn, Fe/Zn and Mn/Zn were increased and Fe/Mn and Cu/Mn were decreased in PD compared to healthy control".

They describe a neural network (a computing technique, ironically inspired by the working of the brain) which, taking together all the relationships, gives a 95% diagnostic accuracy. (But, note the small sample size.)

Reference

[1] Ahmed SSSJ, Santosh W (2010) Metallomic Profiling and Linkage Map Analysis of Early Parkinson's Disease: A New Insight to Aluminum Marker for the Possible Diagnosis. PLoS ONE 5(6): e11252. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0011252
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John

kiwi33 02-08-2017 06:26 PM

I think that this is interesting.

It has been known for some time that α-synuclein can bind a range of metal ions. It has been argued that this may lead to production of Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) which may lead to neuronal damage in people with PD; this is a recent, somewhat technical, paper about this Alpha-Synuclein Oligomers Interact with Metal Ions to Induce Oxidative Stress and Neuronal Death in Parkinson's Disease.

It is possible (though speculative) that the low levels of Zn2+ in people with PD may allow α-synuclein to preferentially interact with redox-active metal ions like Fe3+ and Cu2+, leading to generation of ROS.

johnt 02-09-2017 06:35 AM

I've not done one of these geographical associations for some time. I find them useful not so much as proof, which of course they aren't - there is no rigorous statistical analysis, nor does it take into account any of a myriad of confounding issues - but to kick-out obviously flawed hypotheses.

Compare:
A. The geographical prevalence of PD in the US [1].
B. Zinc in the soil in the US [2].

Eye-balling the maps I suspect that there is a small negative association between the two. Thus, we can't throw out the hypothesis that low levels of zinc are linked to PD.

I would suspect that the causal mechanism by which zinc levels in the body associate with those in the soil is through the food chain and the water supply.

References:

[1] "Geographic and Ethnic Variation in Parkinson Disease: A Population-Based Study of US Medicare Beneficiaries"
Allison Wright Willis,a,* Bradley A. Evanoff,b Min Lian,b Susan R. Criswell,a and Brad A. Racette
Geographic and Ethnic Variation in Parkinson Disease: A Population-Based Study of US Medicare Beneficiaries
Figure 1.

[2] "Element Concentrations in Soils and Other Surficial Materials of the Conterminous United States"
US Geological Survey
https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/1270/pdf/PP1270_508.pdf
Original page 102

John

curem 02-13-2017 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnt (Post 1236063)
I've not done one of these geographical associations for some time. I find them useful not so much as proof, which of course they aren't - there is no rigorous statistical analysis, nor does it take into account any of a myriad of confounding issues - but to kick-out obviously flawed hypotheses.

Compare:
A. The geographical prevalence of PD in the US [1].
B. Zinc in the soil in the US [2].

Eye-balling the maps I suspect that there is a small negative association between the two. Thus, we can't throw out the hypothesis that low levels of zinc are linked to PD.

I would suspect that the causal mechanism by which zinc levels in the body associate with those in the soil is through the food chain and the water supply.

Interesting points. There is an antagonistic relationship between copper and zinc. In fact, many homes have water pipes that are made from copper.


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