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brandnewconcussion 08-01-2017 11:56 PM

Gibberish thoughts in my head
 
Is anyone experiencing/ experienced gibberish thoughts during the recovery phase from a frontal lobe injury? Sometimes I'd be thinking of something and just pure garbage comes out. For example, I think of what to eat for lunch, then some other completely different thought comes out like or nothing comes out, like im blank. Happens for words too (Required -> requiem), names and all get butchered, felix turns into felicia etc, for a few seconds until I "wake up" and go "wtf was I just thinking?" Note this is in sub vocalization itself and not blurting the wrong word out. The actual "thoughts" i get in my head.

Sometimes I forget intuitive things like grammar, sentence syntax and all that. Its all very werid.

red90 08-02-2017 01:11 AM

I remember in the early stages of my recovery, like maybe 2-6 months in, I would forget words decently often. They would be very basic nouns usually, thinks like "fork" or "calculator" or words like that. But although it's kind of scary/annoying, at least it doesn't interfere with everyday life like other symptoms can. And those issues went away after a few months for me, it's probable that they will for you too

davOD 08-02-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brandnewconcussion (Post 1248246)
Is anyone experiencing/ experienced gibberish thoughts during the recovery phase from a frontal lobe injury? Sometimes I'd be thinking of something and just pure garbage comes out. For example, I think of what to eat for lunch, then some other completely different thought comes out like or nothing comes out, like im blank. Happens for words too (Required -> requiem), names and all get butchered, felix turns into felicia etc, for a few seconds until I "wake up" and go "wtf was I just thinking?" Note this is in sub vocalization itself and not blurting the wrong word out. The actual "thoughts" i get in my head.

Sometimes I forget intuitive things like grammar, sentence syntax and all that. Its all very werid.

Yes very common, dont beat yourself up!...Its your brain rewiring itself....it takes time and yes, thing get garbled up.
If it wasnt for spell checker I wouldnt even know what I write sometimes!

Mark in Idaho 08-02-2017 11:06 AM

This is very common.

The solution is the same for everyone.

When this happens, we need to STOP TO THINK.

It usually happens when there is background stimulation that distracts the brain from the line of thought. It can also be self-inflicted when we try to process too much. A common problem is called 'over attending.' Prior to whatever has trigger our symptoms, we could mentally perform without a problem in all of these situations. Now, we need to simplify our thought processes so thoughts do not collide or overwhelm us.

Word finding and using the wrong word are often the most visible symptoms since we can say a word out loud and leave people perplexed.

I have had word finding problems for 20 years. I can still get on with life. I don't pronounce the wrong word often but I frequently type the wrong word. I cannot type the word NO, It always comes out NOT. In the previous paragraph, when I typed OUT LOUD, I typed OUT LOAD. The A and U are not even close on the keyboard. This was a brain fart. They happen. They are not a sign of impending doom. We can make a correction and get on with life.

One problem I have is my sensory intake and motor control part of my brain is slower than it should be and my frontal lobe is faster than it should be. It is like a highway with some car going 70 and others going 35. They are prone to collisions. I need to slow my thinking to fit with my slower occipital lobe processing.

Anxiety makes this all worse as it speeds up processing, even when that faster processing causes crashes of various thoughts. The key is learning to slow thinking and get the brain cleared of extraneous stimuli. Some use relaxation techniques. Others have learned to just let go. Some need anti-anxiety meds to slow the brain until they can learn these other skills. SSRIs and SNRIs are better than benzos for most. Some of us use 5-HTP, L-Tryptophan, L-Theanine and such to do this without meds.

Stop to think. It works,

btw, The more we let word finding and other brain farts and confusing thoughts upset us, the more they will happen.

brandnewconcussion 08-02-2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by red90 (Post 1248251)
I remember in the early stages of my recovery, like maybe 2-6 months in, I would forget words decently often. They would be very basic nouns usually, thinks like "fork" or "calculator" or words like that. But although it's kind of scary/annoying, at least it doesn't interfere with everyday life like other symptoms can. And those issues went away after a few months for me, it's probable that they will for you too


I saw that. See guys, that right there is what i have problems with. Do you see the "thinks" that he typed? It sounds like "things" but it comes out different.

I really don't think that my damage was severe enough to cause these issues but it does and thats what scares the living daylights out of me - If i'm having problems with these basic things, what other basic things have been destroyed in my brain?

Mark in Idaho 08-02-2017 02:28 PM

I had all of these word finding, typing, and speaking problems to a more severe level during a serious depressive episode. They can be caused by things other than brain injury. My psychiatrist got my brain working with nutrition, supplements and B-12 shots over a period of 8 weeks.

Yes, I do things/thinks and a myriad of others like loud/load, my/mine, no/not, and so many that I have to reread what I type, then post it and reread it again.

Grammarly.com has a good app for this.

Rahruwin 08-18-2017 04:16 PM

Oh I just got tickled when you said 'brain fart'

Mark in Idaho 08-18-2017 10:05 PM

Yeah, about brain farts. Our response is often:

What was that ?
Where did that come from?
Did that come out of me ?
I can't believe that came out of me ?
That stinks.


It helps if we learn ways to make fun of these occurrences.


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