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billy027 07-31-2007 08:39 AM

Feel something below brachial plexus
 
When I lean back I often feel something shift or move below plexus. On same side as TOS. Anyone else feel this or know what causes it?

Also I'm scheduled for appointment with pain management dr. at the end of August.
I'm supposed to get injection. Does this cause any problems or pain?

noname 07-31-2007 09:57 AM

1. Need more details.
2. Get an anatomy book, or go online to get some images of the BP to see where it passes. It covers a large area from your neck to your shoulder where it branches out. There are lots of things in and around it and/or its branches.
3. when you say "move" can you be a bit more descriptive?

Good luck.

billy027 07-31-2007 10:00 AM

It feels like a shifting of something. I'm sure it barachial plexus but lower then usual shoulder pain.

noname 07-31-2007 10:12 AM

Sorry, not really enough information. I still say get an anatomy book to see if you can pinpoint more specifically what you suspect.

For example...I have a weird clicking/popping that results in a flare up in the sternal end of my left clavicle. When I turn to the anatomy book I notice that it is connected to the manubrium and sternum by a bunch of ligaments. There is also a ligament between the clavicle and the first rib...ALL stuff around the BP. I suspected some type of subluxation of the clavicle or tiny dislocations and relocations...when I saw the PT, she confirmed that yes, I have a hypermobile left clavicle..and not only on that end but on the other end where it connects with the Acromium a part of the shoulder blade (also referred to as the AC joint). The "movement" can impinge on the BP and other vascular structures...hence the periodic flare ups. But that is me.

johannakat 07-31-2007 10:47 AM

Billy- trigger point injections will usually be a little painful at the injection site for a few days, but hopefully that will be followed by a few weeks of relief. I think it is generally cumulative, in that the more injectrions you have the faster they will work and the less they'll hurt. I know it worked that way for me with botox- thrid time was a charm, :)

gibbrn 07-31-2007 10:55 AM

injections
 
Hi,

I have had many trigger point injections and am a huge proponant of them!!! I can't say how amazing they are....I had bupivocaine and saline...so anesthetic and slightly salty water. They worked for me in my trigger points about 9 injections a time...every two weeks and it lasts for about 5-6 days if you rest the day of injections and the day after......then the meds have a chance to settle and get into the area you need it in.

my pain levels with the needles went from an 8 to a 5 and I felt amazing.....ok 5 for some is high, but try living at 8 or 9 for a few weeks in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyhow yes injections rock!!!!! They are totally mint!!!
I did feel a little bit of tenderness at injection site, but no pain as the doctor did it....so have fun if you so choose but never hurts to try something that could help to decrease pain.

oh don't go cleaning (my outlet) or doing something you were unable to do before the injections as you still have the problem the injections only help with the pain!!! sometimes they give them before PT to help you work harder, but I think you are still masking symptoms and if you do you could do damage if not VERY careful....but that said GO FOR IT~!!!!!!

love and hugs,
Victoria

billy027 08-02-2007 05:46 AM

fell
 
i was running and fell over uneven curve, now my left hand is in severe pain along pinky side and cut head above eye so that hurts well. plus ruined glasses and now forced to use right hand more (Tos ) side. Guess I should see doctor today. it also jarred tos shoulder.

johannakat 08-02-2007 10:37 AM

:( sorry- rest up and feel better :(

Sea Pines 50 08-02-2007 06:56 PM

Ouch, Bill!!!
 
so sorry that happened to you. do you have several icepacks in your freezer for emergencies like this? (frozen bags of peas work well, too...)

hope you were able to get in to see your doc. maybe call the PM doc also, see if you can get on a cancellation list or something. you never know, that way ya might not have to wait until the end of the month for that first appointment.

only thing you want to be sure and have the front desk be mindful of is that it IS a first-time consult, so the PM doc is going to need a good long block of time with you for that reason. can't just squeeze you in on any old cancellation. but schedules do shift, so it might be worth a try, bill.

sure wish ER's were worth a darn in a situation like this but sadly, for a TOS'er, in my experience they are worse than a waste of time...:(

good luck and i hope everything calms down for you with rest and ice. don't be a hero; take your meds. this stuff hurts like the dickens!

i don't know what a dickens is mind you, but you catch my drift...:D

alison

dabbo 08-02-2007 11:42 PM

Billy - I'm so sorry to hear about you tripping and falling. I'm accident-prone and have bad luck, and i'm afraid thats something I would do. I think allison was right- try to get on a cancellation list, take your meds, and if ice helps, ice it down!
Also with Victoria regarding the TPI's. I also get trigger points and wow! sore/feel cruddy that day, and a little sore the next day, but I was getting phenomenal relief from them. they helped loosen up my traps and my scalenesk and that helped alot.

Hope you feel better!


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