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moondaughter 06-19-2018 05:01 AM

Panama is the place to go for stem cell therapy -where science and blend
 
Applying medicine is an art because people respond uniquely to stimulus . This is where science struggles imho ..there are docs that are good at both....

Joe Rogan & Mel Gibson on Stem Cell Therapy - YouTube

Post Script : title of this thread was intended to say "Panama is the place to go for stem cell therapy - where science and art blend" but I d on't know how to edit it..

jeffreyn 06-19-2018 08:38 AM

Wow, that was really interesting.

I noticed a longer version (just over 1 hour) which was also well worth watching.

Joe Rogan Experience #166 - Mel Gibson & Dr. Neil Riordan - YouTube

There was no mention of PD though, and from some of what was said in the final 10 minutes, I got the impression that they don't see PD as one of their targets.

moondaughter 06-19-2018 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffreyn (Post 1264057)
Wow, that was really interesting.

I noticed a longer version (just over 1 hour) which was also well worth watching.

Joe Rogan Experience #166 - Mel Gibson & Dr. Neil Riordan - YouTube

There was no mention of PD though, and from some of what was said in the final 10 minutes, I got the impression that they don't see PD as one of their targets.


I could be wrong, but , they may be "targeting" the individual (and) the disease..Einsteins words come t o mind about solving problems from a different perspective than that which they were "created".....also the saying that to approach a problem the same way over and again lays groundwork for insanity... :( Dr. Riordan comes very highly recommended.

If you like this you might also like Dr. Medici .. at www.straighttalk.cc - a rich resource of great articles...(and this youtube video) - one on stem cells which showed that active sympathetic nerve activity inhibits stem cell growth - (>> A Wiser Medicine: The Wisdom of Eastern Medicine – 368) which would explain failure of application of stem cell therapy by those who don't take into account a larger picture that embraces inherent contradictions.

Kind Regards,
Sharilyn

moondaughter 06-19-2018 11:53 AM

hows' your heart health?
 
Would be interesting to experiment to see if stem cell therapy for heart would help parkinsons sx....

kiwi33 06-19-2018 03:51 PM

This article may be of interest to members who are considering stem cell therapy Nine Things to Know About Stem Cell Treatments.

jeffreyn 06-20-2018 02:12 AM

The focus of the first video was umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cells (MSCs), and their use in the treatment of conditions/diseases not including PD.

The focus of the following video is induced pluripotent stem cells (IPSCs), and their (future) use in the treatment of PD (mainly). The video is a recent interview with Dr. Jeanne Loring of Scripps Research Institute (8th June 2018, approx. 30 mins).

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kiwi33 06-20-2018 03:58 AM

Thanks jeffreyn.

I heard Dr Loring give a talk at a conference once; I was very impressed with her.

moondaughter 06-20-2018 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffreyn (Post 1264086)
The focus of the first video was umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cells (MSCs), and their use in the treatment of conditions/diseases not including PD.

The focus of the following video is induced pluripotent stem cells (IPSCs), and their (future) use in the treatment of PD (mainly). The video is a recent interview with Dr. Jeanne Loring of Scripps Research Institute (8th June 2018, approx. 30 mins).

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At 43+ minutes in reference was made to ALL chronic degenerative disease (your link to Joe Rogan /Mel Gibson longer video ) for (possibly creative??)application of (MSC) stem cells.

jeffreyn 06-20-2018 09:06 AM

When I used the phrase "not including PD", I just meant that PD was not one of the conditions/diseases mentioned in the video.

I think you are right to suggest that MSCs might be of benefit in the treatment of PD.

My understanding of MSCs (from the video) is that they are found throughout the body, they modulate the immune system, decrease inflammation, and stimulate regeneration. They do not transform into other types of cell. Their influence occurs via the production of cytokines and growth factors.

moondaughter 06-20-2018 09:30 AM

Stem cells sourced from our own body verses cells sourced from another raises so many questions - more questions than answers but isn't it interesting that we have a way to optimize our own potential completely within us yet nature is also at the same time interdependent...building a more robust spacial semantic where both are true seems to be such a struggle.
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